youtube more like youboob

Vigil on 14/4/2006 at 20:55

And? If you can't detect a difference between the two then there is no fucking problem in the first place. And if you do notice that the preloading flash movie makes the page or your other browsing annoyingly slower - perhaps, by using a sense other than your eyes - then it's not exactly rocket science for you or your local friendly moderator to track down the cause.

Continuing ffox's observations, I notice a delay in Firefox when the first page loads as all of the flash players kick in. The delay from 4 of them makes things jerky for a moment, so I'd probably give people shit for posting them.

ZylonBane on 14/4/2006 at 21:57

Jesus. In the last page I already said the problem is that broadband users can't readily tell the difference between a Flash piece that's soaking up bandwidth and one that's not. Dialup users, however, can.

And another thing-- Flash can be used to embed automatically-playing sounds. Pretty much always a bad thing, that.

I can't believe I'm actually having to argue against embedding Flash in posts. Most sensible forums take that as a given.

Ulukai on 14/4/2006 at 22:25

Quote Posted by ZylonBane

Faced with the prospect of having to evaluate every embedded Flash object on a case-by-case basis, one would think the admins would instead opt to simply disallow them.

Faced with the prospect of having to evaulate every one of your posts on a case-by-case basis, one would think the admins would instead opt to simply disallow them.

But no. This is why we have moderators, after all.

Azal on 15/4/2006 at 05:53

Quote Posted by henke

FRED ASTAIRE! :D

I'm simply posting in this thread to thank Henke for the Fred Astaire link.

TheNightTerror on 15/4/2006 at 08:42

I'm with Zylonbane here. :weird: I'm on dial-up, and I probably had to wait a good 10 minutes or therabouts for the first page to fully load. I'm fine with files that don't preload, those may as well be allowed. But, as far as I'm concerned, you should be able to decide whether to download the damn thing in the first place if it's large. I don't see why embedded Flash movies are different from massive animated .gif files, and I've seen the latter removed before . . .

Cardel on 15/4/2006 at 08:58

Perhaps a simple solution is to put a warning tag on the title "56K people beware" or something. Arguing about something is childish when its not actually helping solve the problem. Just put a warning at the title, so 56k-ers know that they may be up against some pretty heavy loading.

David on 15/4/2006 at 09:56

I think that they non-autoplaying flash movies can have their place on the forums. However, if they end up being posted continually in place of images then that is going too far, especially as I, GBM, and the moderators (where applicable) will end up having to watch most clips to ensure that they're suitable for the forum.

So, if you're showing us a video for a purpose and are using You Tube as a method of hosting, then yeah that's all good. But if you're using a random You Tube video to try and be funny then it better be damn funny or it'll just annoy me and probably get deleted.

ffox on 15/4/2006 at 14:56

I've got the Mozilla plugin working now - the delay is noticeable but bearable.

Help! The videos in this thread show up OK in IE and Mozilla, but I'm having a problem with Opera.

Flash movies on other sites play OK in Opera, but in this thread I just get a white square containing the volume bar, the Share button and the Play icon. The initial You Tube picture is absent. Click on Play, the icon disappears, nothing else happens.

If I copy a video url (from the source), eg (http://www.youtube.com/v/JCtO4Npozu4) into the Opera address bar all works OK. Are Opera and TTLG incompatible?

OnionBob on 15/4/2006 at 15:13

Quote Posted by ZylonBane

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henke on 15/4/2006 at 17:56

Hahahaha! :D

ur saying that ZB is black, rite?