Bulgarian_Taffer on 8/7/2018 at 10:51
Quote Posted by Thor
My favorite thief is and will always be Bulgarian_Taffer.
What? :)
Thor on 8/7/2018 at 11:23
YOU! YEA, YOU! My favorite Bulgarian Bear is in da house, woop woop!
Independent Thief on 8/7/2018 at 12:54
Quote Posted by Bulgarian_Taffer
There's only one game I'd rate higher than Thief.
Half-Life.
Heresy!:o LOL, seriously I used to play Half-Life 1 a lot many years ago before I got into Thief. However I think Thief FM's are generally superior to most Half Life mods.
Mechs Delight on 8/7/2018 at 17:47
Quote Posted by IAmTheWalrus
Thief Gold which is the second best game of all time. Then Deadly Shadows which is in my top 5, then Thief 2 which is in my top 15. Level design on the first 2 is infinitely better than the second in my opinion, as well as atmosphere, story and characters.
Really? I thought the first two games were far superior to
Deadly Shadows, which just seemed like a lazy, even cynical cash grab, especially the Museum, which could stand in for any bloated, generic giant level. But even
Deadly Shadows looks like a glowing bar of gold compared to the unspeakably awful
NuThief.
Bulgarian_Taffer on 8/7/2018 at 18:04
I'd personally separate the Thief age in two phases. The first phase: LGS one, Thief 1 and Thief 2.
Second phase: post-LGS one, Thief - DS and NuThief.
By recently replaying all Thief games from the beginning to the end, I can clearly see that NuThief tries to mimic Deadly Shadows, rather than Thief 1-2. Open City. Loading zones. The Cradle ripoff. The ship in the last mission (Abysmal Gale ripoff).
The problem IMO is that the first phase led to spiritual successor, and the second phase - didn't. The first phase gave birth to Thief 2x, individual fan missions and fan expansions, and The Dark Mod, of course..
The second phase, well... We have several long TDS campaigns and some FMs, and that's that...
Azaran on 8/7/2018 at 18:08
Quote Posted by Mechs Delight
Really? I thought the first two games were far superior to
Deadly Shadows, which just seemed like a lazy, even cynical cash grab, especially the Museum, which could stand in for any bloated, generic giant level. But even
Deadly Shadows looks like a glowing bar of gold compared to the unspeakably awful
NuThief.
To be fair, Thief 3 was rushed because the studio was about to close, and they had a tight deadline so corners had to be cut. The other problem is they decided to port it to X-Box (a low memory console), so they had to make the levels cramped to make it work. Unfortunate circumstances + bad decisions
piesel on 16/7/2018 at 18:42
Loved them all, also the reboot.
downwinder on 17/7/2018 at 03:03
bulgarian taffer i agree with all but one aspect of thief deadly shadows story line was continued from thief 2,so its part of thief 1 and 2
nuthief =shit
the only way to save thief story line is to have either a prequel to thief 1 or a thief 4 taking place after deadly shadows
Anarchic Fox on 19/7/2018 at 19:13
Quote Posted by downwinder
the only way to save thief story line is to have either a prequel to thief 1 or a thief 4 taking place after deadly shadows
I'd rather see no more Thief games, rather than see them sullied further. In my head, the Keepers from Thief 3 were not the true Keepers, but an usurper order that stumbled upon Keeper knowledge while the true Keepers faded into the background, knowing they could not confront such a powerful group directly.
This is all drawn from readables and environmental storytelling, granted, rather than cutscenes, dialogue or press releases. But the LGS people loved (and love) their secrets. ^_^