fett on 22/10/2006 at 23:50
Quote Posted by Paz
1) The logo is a fox humping the world.
The fox is humping your mom lol
Mr.Duck on 23/10/2006 at 00:02
Paz's mom's the world?
Paz is the moon then!
A lot of things make sense now...
Thread related: ooohhh...IE 7's out....wonder how many fixes/bugs in total will be found before IE 8...eh, I'll use it. I use Opera, Firefox and IE 6 and don't mind at all, maybe I'm just not nerdy enough to fully exploit the good/bad of each one ;).
Schattentänzer on 24/10/2006 at 12:14
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http://www.cbronline.com/article_news.asp?guid=F1861DAE-FEE0-4C4D-9D53-265B2BDC0B6C) Here's one of the better reviews, for those interested. Since it comes November 1st anyways, I guess I'll have a look at it. From what I read so far they took some hints from Opera and FF, without going all the way. That review made IE7 look like a dumbed down Opera 9.
I hope the "emphasis on security" will help to decrease the amount of spam, and I hope that they will make it work for less technicaly inclined people. Getting my sister to understand what a cookie whitelist is is virtually impossible.
th|3f on 24/10/2006 at 13:36
It's kind of interesting when compartively considering the popularity of FF and the lack of news you hear about its flaws or vulnerabilities. Either FF really is more secure and is a safer browser to use...or it really isn't and creaters and exploiters of malware don't attempt to establish domain with it. I wonder why IE is so much more exposed... Maybe something to do with IE being a Microsoft product, or maybe media on the subject focuses on IE since it's an easy subject to recurr.
Schattentänzer on 24/10/2006 at 14:27
Quote Posted by th|3f
It's kind of interesting when compartively considering the popularity of FF and the lack of news you hear about its flaws or vulnerabilities. Either FF really is more secure and is a safer browser to use...or it really isn't and creaters and exploiters of malware don't attempt to establish domain with it. I wonder why IE is so much more exposed... Maybe something to do with IE being a Microsoft product, or maybe media on the subject focuses on IE since it's an easy subject to recurr.
Two main reasons: At least 75%* of all internet users still use IE, and thus exploits have a larger impact. Second, FF
is more secure than IE, and one reason is imo because IE is not open. The idea is that, even if you know the source code of a browser, it is still secure. It doesn't have anything "to hide", so to say. This policy has become standard for cryptography, for example.
Edit:
*) 82%, says (
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=3) here. I'm surprised that IE only lost 4% in one year though.
Mortal Monkey on 24/10/2006 at 17:18
Meh, I think I'll stick to Avant Browser and IE 6 a little longer.
* Tabbed browsing - Check
* Built-in search - Check
* RSS reader - Check
* Send all the URLs you visit to Microsoft - Not yet
As for security:
Quote:
On the security side, the company says it has eliminated some IE6 legacy code that could have led to exploitable vulnerabilities being found.
So they're taking out some old code which could have been exploitable to put in some new code which could be exploitable?
Vigil on 24/10/2006 at 17:50
Quote Posted by Mortal Monkey
Meh, I think I'll stick to Avant Browser and IE 6 a little longer.
* Tabbed browsing - Check
* Built-in search - Check
* RSS reader - Check
* Send all the URLs you visit to Microsoft - Not yet
You forgot...
* Minimal (and unworkably cumbersome) support for translucent PNG images - Check
* No CSS2 selector, fixed-positioning or min/max width and height support - Check
* Incompatible interfaces for XMLHttpRequest - Check
* Broken select-element rendering and behaviour - Check
* Layout bugs galore - Check
Now, see, this is why I as a web developer would
really like it if every IE user would just hurry the fuck up already and upgrade. It means I get to carve about 50% off the time I spend getting website designs working cross-compatibly.
Oh, and you have to explicitly turn the Phishing filter on, which I presume is what you mean by sending URLs to Microsoft.
David on 24/10/2006 at 17:55
Yeah, but you can never miss a good opportunity to spread some FUD!
IE7 is a pretty good browser, they've fixed a lot of annoying bugs and implemented things that should have been implemented god knows how long ago (:hover, Alpha PNG, Godknows what else), however it will remain a browser plagued by security problems for a fair old while yet.
Jeshibu on 24/10/2006 at 19:20
IE7 is definitely an improvement, but it won't replace Firefox for me yet.
Also, in the interest of keeping the browser wars contained to a single thread: Firefox 2.0 is nearly out and available on their ftp servers if you really want it.
