Chuck on 5/10/2007 at 19:40
Quote Posted by Hemebond
Worst how?
What Angel Dust said.
ZymeAddict on 5/10/2007 at 20:49
Quote Posted by Skandalos
Doom3 had better voice actors???
Why do you think that? Because they all sounded so similarly? Because none of them put real drama in his voice? Because of "better actors" make really bad and boring logs?
I start to understand what made ID deliver such a crappy game with Doom3. Today's kids WANT crap!
No, it's because they were
on average more realistic. I played System Shock 2 almost right after Doom 3, and the difference struck me immediately. While I can't recall any really bad acting from the D3 logs, there are quite a few obvious stinkers that still stick out in my mind from SS2.
However, the reason I also probably can't recall any from D3 is because nearly all of them are have such dull and mundane subjects (and of course they are all going to sound the same and not have "drama" because of this). The one exception is the guy who ends up stuck in the Hell dimension and charts his progress (in a very similar vein to Prefontaine in the BOTM by the way), that was actual pretty well done.
SS2 still wins out of course because of it's superior writing and presentation, but if you think that the average voice actor in SS2 is better than the average one in Doom 3 you're deaf.
Kolya on 5/10/2007 at 23:29
Sorry? Didn't get that. :weird:
ZymeAddict on 6/10/2007 at 01:13
What's not to get? Fine, here it is simplified:
1. Doom 3 log voice actors are on average superior to System Shock 2's
2. Doom 3 logs are almost entirely about mundane subjects which do not lend themselves to interesting logs
3. System Shock 2 log voice actors are on average inferior to Doom 3's
4. System Shock 2 logs have superior writing and presentation, and have some logs which are flat-out brilliant.
Therefore: System Shock 2 logs > Doom 3 logs
Angel Dust on 6/10/2007 at 03:56
Quote Posted by Skandalos
Doom3 had better voice actors???
To be honest I was just giving him the benefit of the doubt I haven't played Doom 3 since it came out so I can't remember the quality.
Some_twerp on 6/10/2007 at 13:38
I think some of the voice actors for D3 were really dodgy-people have had a go at Nurse Bloome and her English accent, but that's nothing to Elizabeth watshername in D3. Only toffs from Kensington (land of the rich snobs district in London) speak like that. It's possible that she could have the accent, but the *vast* majority of the British don't speak like that.
Skandalos on 7/10/2007 at 12:38
Zyme, theres only one explanation that helps me understand your strange judgement: SS2 had a much larger number of different voice actors than D3, so the probabiltiy that one of the SS2 actors dont match your taste is obviously higher. At the same time the few D3 voices were all total average, none of them sticking out in any way, while the SS2 voices show much wider variety.
The SS2 voices / voice logs are 50% of what makes SS2 such an exceptional game in my book. So when D3 came out and when I heard about they would copy the idea of the SS2 voice logs I had big expectations, and how got I disappointed! Half through the game I just stopped listening to that boring babble in D3. And I remember quite well that it were the SS2 logs who totally grabbed me while I hadnt been too fond of the starting gameplay experience (engineering).
Mercurius on 8/10/2007 at 01:44
To be fair, D3 didn't have the most gripping story ever and it must have been difficult for the writers to compose a script for the voice logs based on such sparse material. In addition to this, some of the VAs talk like they're reading a script for high school drama club and others like they're reading a phone book.
I'll take SS2's corny accents and overexaggerated voices any day, at least they're entertaining if not realistic.
Angel Dust on 8/10/2007 at 13:35
Quote Posted by Mercurius
To be fair, D3 didn't have the most gripping story ever and it must have been difficult for the writers to compose a script for the voice logs based on such sparse material.
This is not entirely true. D3 had the same 'science gone awry and everybodies trying to survive' aspect in the plot that SS1/2 had. So they definitely could have had some good logs detailing some minor character struggles. Ofcourse the rest of the story didn't amount to much so the major logs would probably still be dull.
FreonTrip on 17/10/2007 at 23:11
Quote Posted by BR796164
Leave Terri Brosius' voice acting at peace!
I enjoy her neat voice every time, whether she speaks for Victoria or Shodan or Lauryl or Delacroix or whoever else.
Ok, bad pronouncement of Delacroix. I can take that. So what. They did the same mistake in Vampire Bloodlines with La Croix who was supposed to be a soldier in Napoleon's army.
End of fanboy rant.
Korenchkin recording logs in his advanced Psi Reaver evolution state, together with Reaver photograph representing him in the PDA.
HOW STUPID IS THAT?
I think it's probably best if we all smile, accept that the voice acting was generally incredible for a PC game released in 1999, and set a watermark that took years for the industry to catch up to. Any game can be picked to bits after eight years... System Shock 2 has held up really, really well given those circumstances.
