Matthew on 15/2/2007 at 11:09
Interesting, the HDD (and the graphics chip, but I know that's integrated) was one of my major misgivings about the Pro. My ambition to purchase one once Leopard has been released grows steadily. Thanks David.
jay pettitt on 15/2/2007 at 18:09
Quote Posted by DaveW
DirectX10 requires a DirectX10 compatible card, which are only just coming out. I was using it as an example. Same with a CD drive - not necceserily related to gaming, but basically I can shove a BluRay or HD DVD writer in my PC while someone with an iMac (like my foolish brother) can't. But I guess the expectation of Macs is to be restricted and have to put up an inferior computing experience :thumb:
P.S OpenGL isn't as good as DirectX10Gosh you win the thread with your super intellect.
No, wiat...
DirectX10 requires a compatible card and importantly for discussions about Windows PCs vs Macs: Windows. The purpose of DirectX is to allow applications developed for Windows to directly access hardware, which Windows doesn't normally encourage. It's a Windows thing, for Windows. Also what Dave says. You silly boy.
P.S. Whether or not DirectX10 is better than OpenGL is subjective rather than objective. At this current point in time the vast majority of Windows, Mac, Playstation, wii, Xbox, and Linux users probably think DirectX10 is over rated since it doesn't work on their systems. OpenGL on the other hand works on everything that isn't an Xbox.
P.P.S. Oils are better than water colours.
DaveW on 15/2/2007 at 22:49
You realise the point still stands that PC's are better at gaming simply because they support DirectX, right? You silly boy.
(Oh, and as I said before it was an example of an upgrade. Please read before suggesting things about someone's intelligence, you can end up looking 'silly' yourself!)Also, which is better is not subjective at all. DirectX is, quite simply, a superior platform for games - suprisingly there's a reason the majority of production companies use it over OpenGL. I think you'll realise this if you look at any of the screenshots of games utilising DirectX 10 (Crysis being the most obvious example). Yeees, OpenGL is portable to different systems, but simply put, trying to make it look good in multiple graphics API's is useless if your main platforms - conviniently by far the biggest, support Direct X. And especially if OpenGL just isn't as good. However much you want to nitpick I don't see you coming up with any concepts to dispute that the PC is better for gaming.
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http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/3360/ohdeariz1.jpgUndeniably some of the biggest releases due out this year.
Turtle on 15/2/2007 at 23:27
No, my dick is bigger.
fett on 16/2/2007 at 00:16
More like your dick is an Unreal Crysis am i rite guys
jay pettitt on 16/2/2007 at 00:56
Oh gosh, I'd rather not.
DaveW,
You misunderstand. Entirely.
I am not and would not suggest that if you want to do gaming you should buy a Mac over a PC. I am arguing quite properly that the reasons you think PC is best are bollocks. Lack of DirectX10 support, hardware and driver updates do not hinder Xbox, Playstation or Wii from being great gaming platforms. In fact lack of any support for DirectX at all doesn't hinder >50% of the video game market. Also, your arguments in favour of DX10 are subjective. Please stop.
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I tried Vista today in a shop (thinking about getting a laptop). It's true, the window borders really do have a transparency effect. Huzzah for the 21st Century.
DaveW on 16/2/2007 at 11:48
Quote Posted by jay pettitt
I am not and would not suggest that if you want to do gaming you should buy a Mac over a PC. I am arguing quite properly that the reasons you think PC is best are bollocks. Lack of DirectX10 support, hardware and driver updates do not hinder Xbox, Playstation or Wii from being great gaming platforms. In fact lack of any support for DirectX at all doesn't hinder >50% of the video game market. Also, your arguments in favour of DX10 are subjective. Please stop.
So far you've offered little proof to support that OpenGL is better than DirectX. It's easier to play the "Your arguments are crap" card and not actually say why, I guess. Yes, OpenGL is more flexible - that is an advantage for it. However, it is no where near as good as DirectX in terms of graphical features and optimisation. Also, the Wii barely has (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii#Technical_specifications) any graphical muscle whatsoever anyway, so the lack of Direct X 10 isn't really going to hinder it. So basically it's whether you want portability or useability. Which is
better for games? Useability. Portability only covers what is better for the
company making them. Also, saying that the Xbox and Playstation are 'great gaming platforms' is very subjective in itself - I personally think consoles are rubbish. I never said lack of DirectX 10 hinders them - I just said that DirectX 10 is better than OpenGl.
fett on 16/2/2007 at 14:34
Quote Posted by DaveW
Also, saying that the Xbox and Playstation are 'great gaming platforms' is very subjective in itself - I personally think consoles are rubbish.
...and so does everyone else around here. As evidence, I point you to the 101 threads denouncing Ion Storm for making TDS for the XBox. Our greatest fears were realized - dumbed down gameplay, terrible vertical gamespace, horribly small play zones, etc. I find this to be true of pretty much ANY console game that's ported to the PC. It is subjective, but I don't see how you guys can make the transition from PC to console because I get pretty frustrated even with games that are ported over. I spent the majority of the time in HL2 waiting for the next section to load.
Sorry - off topic.
Matthew on 16/2/2007 at 14:41
I've also noted that the a large number of PC games released today are rubbish, whereas something like Animal Crossing DS is a great use of the format for which it was released. But hey, blanket statements ftw, right!
