Matthew on 13/2/2007 at 22:43
Flip3D just strikes me as a fancier version of the Task Switcher Powertoy for XP. :erg: I'll admit that some of the other improvements mentioned edge me towards considering an upgrade, though.
DaveW on 13/2/2007 at 22:49
Quote Posted by fett
That being said, I simply can't play the games I want to on a Mac, and I can't really switch to a console. If games were released for Mac and PC simultaneously, I might consider switching. However, I think one of the main complexities of the PC is drivers, graphic cards, software configuration for different games, etc. People don't experience confusion or difficulty with those issues on a Mac, because they're not trying to game on one, at least to the level of most hardcore PC gamers.
Gaming on a Mac is made difficult because technology is constantly changing. Say DirectX10, you'd have to upgrade your entire Mac to be able to play games using it - whereas on a PC, quick installation of a new graphics card and away you go. The complexities come from advantages that you can choose your computer more - you have a choice of memory, hard drives, cd drives, whereas with a Mac your limited to their choices.
And you pay for it.I tried a demo version of Vista, but games ran terrible on it so I just gave up. The folder structure incorporated into some programs such as IE annoyed me quite a bit too. Flip3d was awesome though, and in terms of features they've caught up and surpassed MacOS. All they need to do is make the performance not so rubbish, then I'll get it.
The Mac adverts, in the UK at least, prove that Apple really doesn't have anything on PC's anymore - they're advertising is all based on generalistations that the PC is for work only, despite far more entertainment applications and, more importantly - games, being available on the PC. They have a point with viruses (although that's only because such a minority of people use Macs that it's not worth writing a virus for it), although with £30 of software that problem effectively goes away. I consider Macs to be overpriced and offer little over PC's other than their sleek design - which isn't worth the disadvantages of it and the price :)
Vigil on 13/2/2007 at 22:59
Quote Posted by Abysmal
Different window stylings act as visual cues and give each app their own distinction (I believe Windows has this as well).
Yeah, in Windows we call it "oh god get out with your bloated pompous custom window chrome, what was wrong with my own theme".
jay pettitt on 14/2/2007 at 01:58
Quote Posted by DaveW
Gaming on a Mac is made difficult because technology is constantly changing. Say DirectX10, you'd have to upgrade your entire Mac to be able to play games using it - whereas on a PC, quick installation of a new graphics card and away you go. The complexities come from advantages that you can choose your computer more - you have a choice of memory, hard drives, cd drives, whereas with a Mac your limited to their choices.
And you pay for it.Good god man, you've been using a PC for too long.
Of course you can update the software on a Mac. Obviously you can't upgrade to DirectX 10, but for that matter you can't upgrade to DirectX 4 either; DirectX is proprietary MS tech specific to Windows. OpenGL on the other hand works on anything and you can update it to the latest version on anything. Would you believe you can also upgrade hardware on a Mac: drives, graphics cards and all. And how does choosing your CD drive help you play games? Bugger me, since when was having to upgrade a good thing ever anyway.
But yes, Mac's and their users have a different ethos about upgrades. The expectation is that stuff should work out of the box without dismantling your PC for a quick graphics card upgrade and driver installation.
Macs have never really had anything on PCs, they just have a different way of going about things. It's ok to like your boring PC, no need to get shirty about it.
BEAR on 14/2/2007 at 02:09
hay guyz i hear u have to tape ur web cams to ur monitors with pc's lol fags.
Abysmal on 14/2/2007 at 02:23
Mac upgrades consist of selling the entire machine for almost what you paid for it, and getting a complete system upgrade for around 100-150 bucks (sometimes less) by just buying the new one. It's a bit different from having to drop hundreds on new internals to keep your rig in top shape. Those that contest Mac prices generally fail to consider their high resale value and the whole TCO angle, among other things.
Turtle on 14/2/2007 at 05:48
Where are all these knuckleheads getting the idea that there's a "Demo Version" of Vista?
Just say pirated, people.
Microwave Oven on 14/2/2007 at 16:37
Quote Posted by Turtle
Where are all these knuckleheads getting the idea that there's a "Demo Version" of Vista?
Just say pirated, people.
But...but...there was a demo version released...:( it expires in June I think.
you hater you...pirates are cool, like ninjas
aguywhoplaysthief on 14/2/2007 at 17:51
Quote Posted by Abysmal
Mac upgrades consist of selling the entire machine for almost what you paid for it
I'm sorry, I just can't believe that.
fett on 14/2/2007 at 22:10
Quote Posted by jay pettitt
But yes, Mac's and their users have a different ethos about upgrades. The expectation is that stuff should work out of the box without dismantling your PC for a quick graphics card upgrade and driver installation.
I have an expectation that Carmen Electra will show up in my living room, but it doesn't change the fact that she simply won't. :)
As I said in my other post, you can't realistically play games on a Mac because of the difficulty involved in such things as hardware upgrades, not to mention the piss poor selection of games for Mac (MYST - OOOOOH!). I'm not going to buy a Mac, then sit around unable to play the games I want to, all the while righteously insisting that the machine should work 'out of the box'. That's not the way computers work in the real world - at least for gamers.
