gunsmoke on 29/6/2009 at 19:07
Quote Posted by Kolya
I don't know, I liked the grassy hills better. Think I'm gonna stay with XP.
Goddamn that was funny!
Is it me or are OSs getting really expensive?
Schwaa2 on 29/6/2009 at 20:28
I just read up on it. You HAVE to get pro to get the XP runtime thing.
Which is a full free version DL of XP pro that runs with 7, to help out with backward compatibilities.
Home doesn't seem to have the option.
gunsmoke on 29/6/2009 at 20:31
Quote Posted by Schwaa2
I just read up on it. You HAVE to get pro to get the XP runtime thing.
Which is a full free version DL of XP pro that runs with 7, to help out with backward compatibilities.
Home doesn't seem to have the option.
Seriously? I'll take your word for it, but wow, M$oft. Luckily I own it.
Medlar on 29/6/2009 at 21:23
Quote Posted by gunsmoke
Goddamn that was funny!
Is it me or are OSs getting really expensive?
(
http://www.apple.com/macosx/)
Upgrade from Mac OS X Leopard for just $29. :cheeky:
Ostriig on 29/6/2009 at 22:08
Quote Posted by Schwaa2
I just read up on it. You HAVE to get pro to get the XP runtime thing.
Which is a full free version DL of XP pro that runs with 7, to help out with backward compatibilities.
Home doesn't seem to have the option.
There's more to it, you'll also need certain hardware support for XP mode. 2GB ram isn't a problem, but apparently you'll also need a CPU that supports "chip virtualization". Here's (
http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=4263) two (
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9132340) articles that popped up on Google for it. I also seem to remember reading an article where a guy suggested that XP mode might be a security risk in W7, but I don't have a link anymore and I wasn't too impressed with the article's overall tone, either, so I'm taking it with a grain of salt.
On the bright side, while I am interested in getting a W7 version that supports XP mode, even if only as an odd take on future-proofing, I can honestly say that aside from hearing that KOTOR's supposed to not work on Vista, I haven't had a single unsolvable issue of backwards compatibility creep up on me. And I imagine W7 backwards compatibility to Vista will be pretty much a given.
Yeah, that argument's not quite as solid as you think considering that Apple's EULA for OS X states that it should only be used on Apple hardware.
Renzatic on 29/6/2009 at 22:53
Quote Posted by Ostriig
On the bright side, while I am interested in getting a W7 version that supports XP mode, even if only as an odd take on future-proofing, I can honestly say that aside from hearing that KOTOR's supposed to not work on Vista, I haven't had a single unsolvable issue of backwards compatibility creep up on me. And I imagine W7 backwards compatibility to Vista will be pretty much a given.
I've yet to run across anything, beyond Gothic 1 & 2, that hasn't run in 7. Sometimes you have to fiddle with ini files, compatibility modes, and admin rights to get a few older titles to run. That's no big issue, considering everyone who's used XP to play old games should be an old hand at that by now. It's no different here.
Honestly, I think the virtualization scheme is far preferable to the current setup we've been using to get old software to work. Compatibility mode is flaky at the best of times, whereas you're almost guaranteed to get a program to work if you're running it in its native environment.
I just wish MS went and included 98 alongside XP. With that, they would've covered the entire spectrum of OSes, and it would've only added about 300-500 meg to the overall install bloat. Oh well. I can always get a copy of VMWare or its ilk and do it myself.
Quote Posted by Medlar
Upgrade from Mac OS X Leopard for just $29.
That's no surprise. Apple is first and foremost a hardware company. You might think you got a deal when you spent about $120 on a full copy of OSX, but then you realize they made a mint off you when you went out and bought that brand new Mac to put it on. No matter which way you go, you're gonna get got.
Aerothorn on 30/6/2009 at 22:11
Agreed on games in 7, everything is running hunky-dory here. The one exception is a small class of games (including Neverwinter Nights 2) that use the dxdiag file in a certain way (I can't remember the specifics) - they will not start in 7 RC. However, the problem was reported to Microsoft and has been fixed for the final version. And even with these, there's a way to jury-rig it into running by replacing said file with one from Vista.
Also, question for Windows 7/Vista users: What non-default gadgets, if any, do you use or recommend?
Matthew on 30/6/2009 at 23:14
I like the Logitech words-per-minute typing counters.
heywood on 1/7/2009 at 00:11
Are any of you using hibernation in Windows 7? I had sleep and hibernate problems right out of the box with Vista on two different machines - one desktop and one laptop. I got sleep to work most of the time with a little hackery, but it still wakes the machine up on occasion and sometimes needs to be put to sleep manually. And hibernation is still no dice no matter what I do. These are killer problems for a laptop, so I had to revert to XP.
Mingan on 1/7/2009 at 01:20
I just pre-ordered it. Let's hope it won't make too much of a fuss while upgrading.
