icemann on 31/7/2015 at 01:55
Hopefully be able to add back in the quick launch bar. Love that thing. Super handy.
Renzatic on 31/7/2015 at 01:57
I'm here on the final release after kicking myself out of the Insider Program, and it's all pretty solid to me. As I've said above, it's mostly upsides with very downs, and probably the best release Since 7 came out all those years ago. But there big caveat to it that might get some people a little bothered:
Forced Windows Updates.
If you're on Win10 Home, you can't defer or ignore any updates. In a lot of ways, this is a good thing, since one of the major sources of vulnerabilities come from people who are still running Windows the way it came out of the box when they first bought their computer. But it's also bad since MS has been known to push buggy updates on people that break their machine before. Even worse, it'll automatically update your hardware drivers, which can sometimes be flaky. This happened to a bunch of people right before release, when they rolled an Nvidia driver down the pipes that ended up breaking dual monitor support.
My final word on it is that it's a much more friendly OS than 8, and far more future proofed than 7, but I wouldn't rush to install it right away if you haven't already done so. Wait a month or two for MS to iron everything out, and start addressing peoples justified bitch fits, then install it. Service Release 1 is already coming our way in a week or two, and I think MS will be rolling out up to date ISOs from here on out (key phrase being I think), so you might as well.
Renzatic on 31/7/2015 at 01:58
Quote Posted by icemann
Hopefully be able to add back in the quick launch bar. Love that thing. Super handy.
You can. Functionally, the Win10 taskbar is almost exactly the same as the one in Win7, so anything you could do there, you can do here.
faetal on 31/7/2015 at 07:44
I'm not crazy about forced driver updates. I used to have a program which did this for me and it put my old PC into a state where it would only successfully boot to windows 1 in every 10 attempts. Later found out that I needed to flash the motherboard BIOS to a more recent build due to some unforeseen conflict with the GPU, but it soured me on being too on the ball with updating every driver. That many moving parts - I can foresee a lot of people having problems with this.
The argument could be that if people update their drivers regularly like they're supposed to, then these things would happen anyway, but I think the general lag behind the most current drivers most people exercise means that by the time they do get up to date with a piece of hardware, the drivers from another potentially conflicting piece have moved to something less conflicting due to problems found by a minority of people who stay up to date or use auto-update software like I did and subsequently fixed.
Vae on 31/7/2015 at 08:11
Quote Posted by bob_doe_nz
What if I don't like Windows 10 and want to downgrade?
Start > Settings > Update & Security > Recovery > Go Back to Windows 7/8/8.1 (previous installation)
You have one month to downgrade before the opportunity expires.
Quote Posted by Renzatic
Forced Windows Updates.
If you're on Win10 Home, you can't defer or ignore any updates.
Yet, there is a utility to prevent troublesome updates and drivers from reinstalling...(
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3073930) KB3073930
Even so, I suspect this "forced updating" to be temporary, with the resulting agitation likely alleviated in a future service pack.
heywood on 31/7/2015 at 14:54
There's a good case for forcing critical security updates. All other updates should be discretionary. I run a Windows domain at home so I'll still retain control over update policy, otherwise I'd have a problem with this strategy change.
I had a play with Windows 10 on a friend's laptop and the new interface is mostly good. I still prefer Win 7 but it's close enough that my mind could change after spending more time with it.
I still don't have any compelling reason to upgrade though, so I'll probably wait and see what happens.
ZylonBane on 31/7/2015 at 16:36
Considering my last OS jump was from Win2K to Windows 7, I'll probably do the same thing again-- just stick with my current OS until hardware and games stop supporting it.
Chimpy Chompy on 31/7/2015 at 18:14
I've just noticed apps can be run in a window and freely resized - with this added flexibility I can see myself using them a lot more.
Pyrian on 31/7/2015 at 18:45
Quote Posted by Chimpy Chompy
I've just noticed apps can be run in a window and freely resized...
Well, what do you know. We've finally returned to reclaim the functionality windowing systems had at their inception... :laff:
Tony_Tarantula on 31/7/2015 at 23:33
If you're in the camp that's concerned about user privacy, stay the fuck away from Windows 10:
(
http://www.techworm.net/2014/10/microsofts-windows-10-permission-watch-every-move.html)
Quote:
“Microsoft collects information about you, your devices, applications and networks, and your use of those devices, applications and networks.
Examples of data we collect include your name, email address, preferences and interests; browsing, search and file history; phone call and SMS data; device configuration and sensor data; and application usage.