Azaran on 29/8/2015 at 21:47
Quote Posted by Renzatic
...but they will charge you monthly for Office, and Onedrive.
A good reason to keep using your old software if you have it
Renzatic on 29/8/2015 at 22:06
I actually like Office 365. Unlimited online storage for $10, and Office for free as long as I remain subscribed. It's pretty handy.
Though I will say this. If MS does do the unthinkable, and goes sub only for Windows, then we'll see Eva's worst fears come to pass, and the year of the Linux desktop will finally be upon us. I think I already said this previously, but there's a difference between paying monthly to use a program, and paying monthly to be able to use your computer. People won't tolerate the latter. I know I wouldn't.
voodoo47 on 29/8/2015 at 22:19
do you know how to boil a frog?
ffox on 30/8/2015 at 14:29
Quote Posted by bedwine
A huge problem is that Windows 10 does not work with either after market Dark Loader or FM SEL.
What does "after market" mean in this context?
I've been running Windows 10 for a month now. Thief Gold and Thief2 have been running perfectly through FMSel.
Having seen your post I've tried them via DarkLoader. Thief Gold 1.37 runs OK as does Thief2 1.18.
I'm not going to bother trying the 1.23 versions via DarkLoader because of the way it messes about ("optimizes") the installations.
I don't think Windows 10 is your problem but suspect that DarkLoader did some damage.
bedwine on 30/8/2015 at 16:22
Quote Posted by ffox
What does "after market" mean in this context?
I may have used the wrong wording. This meant basically that the FM's, Darkloader and FMsel are made by game editors and not Looking Glass Studios all though... They are supported because, why would the include a game editor with the original games? I can load the Original Games but I can not load any FM's. Example Darkloader and FMsel will load the Mission but when I start the mission it hangs up and Windows pop up say there is a problem. I gave up and restored Windows 7 thinking that would correct the problem. Now Windows 7 has been corrupted by the Windows 10 install because I still can't get Darkloader or FMsel to work. They were working perfectly before I upgraded. I am back on Windows 10 just to play with before going back to Windows 7. My 30 days are almost up. Some of the basic apps such as my camera, windows store etc. don't work correctly. I have to reset Windows 10 on a daily basis to get them to work. It is a total pain in the ass.
WingedKagouti on 31/8/2015 at 11:36
Not only that, but they will also try to find any fault they can in competing products to highlight, even if what Apple does is worse.
doctorfrog on 31/8/2015 at 17:47
Then there's this: (
http://www.ghacks.net/2015/08/28/microsoft-intensifies-data-collection-on-windows-7-and-8-systems/)
The user tracking stuff that's included in Windows 10 is being added as features to Win 7/8. Unlike Windows 10, though, you can decide not to install these.
Quote:
KB3068708 Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry - This update introduces the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to existing devices. By applying this service, you can add benefits from the latest version of Windows to systems that have not yet upgraded. The update also supports applications that are subscribed to Visual Studio Application Insights. (Windows 8.1, Windows Server 2012 R2, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1), and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1)
KB3022345 (replaced by KB3068708) Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry - This update introduces the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to in-market devices. By applying this service, you can add benefits from the latest version of Windows to systems that have not yet been upgraded. The update also supports applications that are subscribed to Visual Studio Application Insights. (Windows 8.1, Windows Server 2012 R2, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1), and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1)
KB3075249 Update that adds telemetry points to consent.exe in Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 - This update adds telemetry points to the User Account Control (UAC) feature to collect information on elevations that come from low integrity levels. (Windows 8.1, Windows RT 8.1, Windows Server 2012 R2, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1), and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1)
KB3080149 Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry - This package updates the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to existing devices. This service provides benefits from the latest version of Windows to systems that have not yet upgraded. The update also supports applications that are subscribed to Visual Studio Application Insights. (Windows 8.1, Windows RT 8.1, Windows Server 2012 R2, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1), and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1)
If these updates are installed on the system, data is sent to Microsoft regularly about various activities on it.
Bonus: the description for each of these within Windows Update itself is the usual "this fixes issues within Windows."
bedwine on 1/9/2015 at 20:34
Quote Posted by ffox
What does "after market" mean in this context?
I've been running Windows 10 for a month now. Thief Gold and Thief2 have been running perfectly through FMSel.
Having seen your post I've tried them via DarkLoader. Thief Gold 1.37 runs OK as does Thief2 1.18.
I'm not going to bother trying the 1.23 versions via DarkLoader because of the way it messes about ("optimizes") the installations.
I don't think Windows 10 is your problem but suspect that DarkLoader did some damage.
I got my DarkLoader and FMsel to work after upgrading to 1.23. I still have to reconfigure my filing system as I a have about 1,000 FMs to put in one file to get it organized. Taffer patcher would probably would have fixed it too.
One that note I am somewhat satisfied. I think Windows 8 users will really like Windows 10. Many Window 7 users won't like the scroll bar and the desktop layout but like me they could get used to it. The concept of "apps" for everything is a little weird.
