voodoo47 on 8/8/2015 at 23:41
yes they are.
Renzatic on 9/8/2015 at 02:10
Linus Torvalds beckons you all with open arms! Free yourself from tyranny of the proprietary! Come! Suckle at the teat of Open Source! ALL ARE WELCOME!
Take that first step on the road to the Promised Land by (
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_guide) reading this wiki on how to install Arch Linux. Throw down your shackles, brothers and sisters! Accept the inevitable!
Tony_Tarantula on 9/8/2015 at 05:05
Quote Posted by WingedKagouti
The long term plan, post windows 10 most likely, is to switch to a subscription model. From a corporate strategy perspective they are analyzing the success they've had with getting retail users to spend more on office using the Office 365 subscription model and they earnestly believe that they will be able to duplicate that success with the OS.
For now.
The long term plan, post windows 10 most likely, is to switch to a subscription model. From a corporate strategy perspective they are analyzing the success they've had with getting retail users to spend more on office using the Office 365 subscription model and they earnestly believe that they will be able to duplicate that success with the OS.
Yes it sounds dumb and no I'm not defending it. Keep in mind we're talking about some of the same people who thought it was a good idea to stamp off on the Xbone being an "always on" device and mandatory Kinect. I wouldn't expect all their plans to pass the common sense test.
P.S: To be fair it's a fairly common problem with mega-cap companies. Corporate executives and decision makers are frequently so far removed from the day to day life experiences of their customers that they have a very poor understanding of how the consumer's needs and preferences.
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The Enterprise edition is not going to be free for anyone, the company will either be paying directly for it or they will have a more general subscription that covers it. And Enterprise is a major part of Microsoft's OS based income. .
edit: SORRY!
Renzatic on 9/8/2015 at 05:32
I doubt it very, very seriously. MS isn't entirely stupid, and they well understand that paying $10 a month to get Office and a bunch of cloud storage is a world of difference from paying $10 to be able to use your computer. Their long term strategy is to monetize services running on the OS, like Office, OneDrive, music and video outlets, and apparently FUCKING SOLITAIRE, while sticking with the tried and true OEM license model for the OS itself.
Subing the OS would be absolute sabotage on their part, and it's not something they can easily get away with these days, what with Android, iOS, and even OSX to a lesser extent encroaching on a territory that was once solely theirs.
EvaUnit02 on 9/8/2015 at 07:29
Just like how Vista was supposedly going to lock out Blu-ray and DVD playback if you weren't running HDCP compliant hardware? What about how Win8 was supposedly going to turn Windows into a "walled garden" where you could only buy and run programs from the MS app store? I'll fucking believe it when I see it. Companies put all sorts of bullshit in their EULAs that they'll never enforce else face the thunderous wrath of the internet.
Did you believe that Origin circa 2011 scanned your HDD too? Keep reading your alarmist clickbait articles and wait in the corner for the sky to fall whilst wearing a tinfoil hat. The NSA are judging yours and Tony_Tarantula's Pornhub viewing habits too BTW.
WingedKagouti on 9/8/2015 at 11:01
Quote Posted by Renzatic
I doubt it very, very seriously. MS isn't entirely stupid, and they well understand that paying $10 a month to get Office and a bunch of cloud storage is a world of difference from paying $10 to be able to use your computer. Their long term strategy is to monetize services running on the OS, like Office, OneDrive, music and video outlets, and apparently FUCKING SOLITAIRE,
To be fair, from everything I've seen the Windows 8 version of the Solitaire Collection has built in ads as well, you just don't have the option to pay to turn them off. Then again the price to do so for Win10 is fairly ludicrous.
Renzatic on 9/8/2015 at 15:10
I've played a few rounds of Klondike and Tri Peaks, and have yet to see any of the fullscreen ads people have been screaming about. It's been fairly unobtrusive from my experiences.
But I still can't help but think that making Solitaire a sub based service, even if it is just $10 a year, is an incredibly cheap move on MS' part. It's just...so cheesy.
EvaUnit02 on 9/8/2015 at 21:15
Quote Posted by Renzatic
I've played a few rounds of Klondike and Tri Peaks, and have yet to see any of the fullscreen ads people have been screaming about. It's been fairly unobtrusive from my experiences.
But I still can't help but think that making Solitaire a sub based service, even if it is just $10 a year, is an incredibly cheap move on MS' part. It's just...so cheesy.
The challenge modes for Solitaire are supposed to be where the bulk of the rolling video adverts reside. Even so, what's the big deal? The game is still 100% free.
This begs the question, why are people only making a big deal of this now? This is the EXACT same Solitaire from the Win 8 store released in 2012 or 2013. Why does it actually shipping with Windows instead of being an optional download like in Win 8 change anything? Save for the Cortana learning and Wifi Sense, the privacy options are near identical to Windows 8 too. Where were the tech blogs with their clickbait articles in 2012?
WingedKagouti on 10/8/2015 at 08:38
Quote Posted by EvaUnit02
Where were the tech blogs with their clickbait articles in 2012?
Some potential reasons:
Windows 8 wasn't offered for free to anyone with Vista/7.
A large portion of Windows users were still on XP.
Windows 8 was generally panned for forcing the Metro/Modern UI.
People were railing against other potentially bad aspects of Windows 8 (like the previously mentioned store exclusivity).
Windows 10 offers something very similar to the classic shell, so people no longer have that to complain about. They've seen that the Windows Store doesn't shut out standard programs. A lot of other concerns with Windows 8 have been adressed in Windows 10, so now people have energy to focus on something "new".
Renzatic on 10/8/2015 at 22:23
Quote Posted by EvaUnit02
The challenge modes for Solitaire are supposed to be where the bulk of the rolling video adverts reside. Even so, what's the big deal? The game is still 100% free.
It's hardly the end of the world, and barely even worth considering once everything's said and done, but it does feel a little miserly on MS' part. One of those things you have to say "really? comeon..." about. I mean it's solitaire. That part of Windows that's been a nice little freebie since practically day one. They don't have to monetize absolutely everything.
