voodoo47 on 8/8/2015 at 08:35
Quote Posted by Vae
Windows 10 does not use an annual subscription-based model.
YET
Vae on 8/8/2015 at 08:56
Hypothetically speaking, yes...Although I highly doubt it, due to the massive loss of users that would inevitably occur. They want to retain and expand their base for the greater profit of data mining, which millions will blindly give them...add to that, the purchase of future non-core optional features and apps that extend windows functionality, and one can see why they want everyone on board.
WingedKagouti on 8/8/2015 at 09:42
Quote Posted by voodoo47
YET
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http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/07/what-windows-as-a-service-and-a-free-upgrade-mean-at-home-and-at-work/)
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Subsequently, and in some ways even more importantly, those new Windows 10 machines will continue to receive updates "for the lifetime of the device—at no cost."
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http://www.pcgamer.com/microsoft-windows-10-will-not-be-sold-as-a-subscription/)
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Myerson clarified that Windows 10 users will still get free updates and support for the lifetime of the OS, exactly like past versions of Windows (like XP and Windows 7's Service Packs, for example). There's no subscription model for updates or support or continuing to use the OS. Myerson's reference to Windows "as a service" simply meant that Microsoft plans to update the OS with smaller, more regular updates rather than the big, chunky updates of past Service Packs.
Basically NO, they're not even considering switching the home/pro versions to a subscription model.
If your current Windows is an OEM, then it's tied to the hardware you're using (allowing for certain types of upgrades/replacements) and will be free for as long as that machine is still running. That does include if you upgraded to Win10, or if you buy a new computer with an OEM Windows 10. So they'll still be selling copies of Windows for quite a while, since many who upgrade/buy new computers only get an OEM license. If you do have a Retail license, you'll be able to use it as a Windows 10 license for the lifespan of Windows 10.
The Enterprise edition is not going to be free for anyone, the company will either be paying directly for it or they will have a more general subscription that covers it. And Enterprise is a major part of Microsoft's OS based income.
doctorfrog on 8/8/2015 at 18:44
Though there is the question of how many parts you can replace in a computer before Windows considers it to be a new machine, I really doubt that Microsoft is going to rub its hands with glee and suddenly switch to a subscription-based model if they're already creating the market expectation that the OS is either included in the cost of a new computer or $119 (or some other discounted OEM price if you buy it with a new hard drive or something). The revolt would make it not worth it for them.
$119 isn't the worst price in the world if I end up waiting out the year. Might be worth it to see how things go.
voodoo47 on 8/8/2015 at 20:48
Quote Posted by doctorfrog
I really doubt that Microsoft is going to rub its hands with glee and suddenly switch to a subscription-based model
as far as evil bullshit is concerned, there are no limits. see the post right above mine.
doctorfrog on 8/8/2015 at 21:58
Quote Posted by voodoo47
as far as evil bullshit is concerned, there are no limits. see the post right above mine.
Still doubt it. People kinda shrug at privacy violations and just want to share cat pictures, but they don't want to pay money for things, that makes them mad. Microsoft wants to be liked right now, and they'll want to be liked in the near future. -- noted industry analyst doctorfrog
All this troubling stuff is just more reason to wait. Wait for the EU to threaten to sue MS for the more blatant crap. Wait for hackers to find a way to turn bullshit off. Wait for patches to roll in. Wait for a game I actually give a crap about that only runs on 10. Wait and see if Valve's OS is anything more than vapor, and how privacy or consumer friendly that turns out to be, or if it's just another goddamn store that wants to be on every device.
The standard method for getting consumers on your side in the tech industry is to do something horrible and privacy-violating, then scale it back slightly in response, resulting in cheers, forgiveness, and blessed forgetfulness, and there you have a new status quo.
voodoo47 on 8/8/2015 at 22:29
you do things right, and they will beg you to take their money. ever heard of Apple?
WingedKagouti on 8/8/2015 at 23:25
Quote Posted by voodoo47
you do things right, and they will
beg you to take their money. ever heard of Apple?
You do know that Apple is at best as bad with privacy and profiling as Microsoft are with Win10, right?
Ever tried to get OSX to run on a non-Mac? It can be done, but Apple won't like you for it. And don't even think of trying to sell a non-Mac with OSX installed, Apple
will send a horde of lawyers your way.
Microsoft aren't blazing any kind of new ground with any of this, they're more or less "merely" playing catch up.
