Win 7 vs. Win 10 movement

klatremus on 3/2/2021 at 00:06

I recently started playing Thief on a new laptop running Win 10 64-bit, and I have noticed something peculiar. I can no longer do small crouch-walk/run steps without making noise on metal/marble/tile. In Win 7 I was able to hold run while crouching for about 0.5 second without making any noise, and could repeat this to travel fairly quickly along loud stretches without getting noticed. In Win 10 the instant I press run/walk while crouching, Garrett makes a clunk. All my settings between the two installs are identical. I know this because I simply copied the entire folder directly over to Win 10. Has anyone else experienced this? The effect is the same in Thief 1 and Thief 2 for both operating systems.

marbleman on 3/2/2021 at 00:26

I've been playing Thief on Win 10 for a while now and never experienced this.

PinkDot on 3/2/2021 at 11:15

So, if I understand correctly - the instant noise makes you easily detectable by guards? If so, then I'd say it's the improved security measures in Windows 10 compared to Win 7. It's not that easy to simply break in and steal stuff now, which makes sense.

(sorry, if that's not the answer you were looking for... ;) )

baeuchlein on 3/2/2021 at 14:42

Quote Posted by PinkDot

I'd say it's the improved security measures in Windows 10 compared to Win 7.

I knew Win10's version of Windows Defender was superior to Win7's, but didn't know it was that good.:wot:

klatremus, although I have not experienced the problem you have so far, maybe you can use a workaround, at least in Thief 2. If you want to sneak over metal floors, draw your sword and crouch, then use the sneak key to move forward. You should make no noise then even if you press and hold that key. Not a fast way to go, but a secure one, AFAIK.

lordhern on 3/2/2021 at 15:56

I had the same issue using the laptop keyboard on my MSI laptop. I never had the problem on my old dell.

my solution was to use an external keyboard on the new hardware.

klatremus on 3/2/2021 at 21:23

Although your comment wasn't very constructive PinkDot, it was quite amusing.

lordhern: that actually helped, but in the opposite way. You see I already use an external keyboard, and that was the issue. I disconnected it and tried using just the main keyboard and that worked perfectly! Then I reconnected the external one and now that works normally too. So weird. Well, thank you :D

lordhern on 4/2/2021 at 03:50

I wonder if you shift key or "repeat" settings and/or caps-lock etc was loopy due to a second keyboard being attached. That is a bane for me as my gaming keyboard is a hard-wired qwerty board while my typing keyboard is hard-wired Dvorak board. I'm glad you aren't facing that now so you won't be blocked from another upload to youtube.

downwinder on 4/2/2021 at 07:11

i use win 7 myself and 90% of the time i can walk on tile/metal/marble where i can go a bit with no noise,but on some maps it dont work but rare

the trick i use is go backward i can get amazing results,for example on a thresh hold to a door if metal/any noisey surface by going backward not a sound ever :)

try it and let me know using the tap and hold tech,repeat

cheese, lol on 5/2/2021 at 07:42

The distance you can move between a standstill and your first footfall is very dependent on frame rate. The first place I'd look at are the things which would limit your frame rate, like vsync options in cam_ext.cfg and your video card control panel, the other frame rate limiting options in cam_ext.cfg like framerate_cap and SlowFrame, or any external frame limiters you might be using like RTSS or one built into your video drivers. Perhaps there's no change there, but maybe a new monitor with a different refresh rate? That can change your frame rate if vsync is on.

Dr.Sahnebacke on 6/2/2021 at 08:53

Quote Posted by downwinder

[emoji1787] unbelievable ! I must try this today. I hope I don't knock over an expensive Chinese vase in the process.

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