june gloom on 1/2/2014 at 21:22
Quote Posted by Platinumoxicity
Ah, the good ol' argument from percieved superior sanity. No need to debunk, just assume insanity, and refuse to explain or argue based on the unfounded assumption of insanity. I'm sure that patting your own back makes the loneliness go away. Just make sure to switch hands once in a while, or you might figure out that you're doing it yourself.
Go read Jason's post, because it says everything I could possibly have said.
And then sob yourself to sleep.
SubJeff on 1/2/2014 at 21:59
If I'm not allowed to insult you because of the pure nonsense you foam, Platinum, then at least look at what dethtoll and Jason are saying and try to get why you're making no sense.
Unless you're 14. In which case, carry on.
FatSpy on 1/2/2014 at 22:16
Quote Posted by Jason Moyer
TotalBiscuit is basically the last person on earth who I would take seriously about anything.
It was just an example of how it's not an unheard of idea.
Your earlier post doesn't seem to counter the idea that preorders are used to force the hand of customers to gamble to help sales it just seems to try and justify it, so you could still argue "Should they be making their customers gamble in the first place" and "Dedication is earned not forced". They'll probably release a game of the year edition somewhere down the line anyways which will have all the DLC so it's not a huge deal really.
GodzillaX8 on 2/2/2014 at 00:30
Quote Posted by FatSpy
It was just an example of how it's not an unheard of idea.
Your earlier post doesn't seem to counter the idea that preorders are used to force the hand of customers to gamble to help sales it just seems to try and justify it, so you could still argue "Should they be making their customers gamble in the first place" and "Dedication is earned not forced". They'll probably release a game of the year edition somewhere down the line anyways which will have all the DLC so it's not a huge deal really.
They also want to encourage early adoption, thereby also increasing word of mouth marketing if the game turns out to be great. It's not all tinfoil hat greedy corporation conspiracy lunacy.
You're the one who has to decide whether or not the purchase is worth the price with the information they provide you. Don't try to blame the companies for your poor purchasing choices.
june gloom on 2/2/2014 at 01:25
Quote Posted by GodzillaX8
You're the one who has to decide whether or not the purchase is worth the price with the information they provide you.
Don't try to blame the companies for your poor purchasing choices..
Platinumoxicity on 2/2/2014 at 10:06
Quote Posted by NuEffect
If I'm not allowed to insult you because of the pure nonsense you foam, Platinum, then at least look at what dethtoll and Jason are saying and try to get why you're making no sense.
If you cannot even bring yourself to try to educate someone you think is misinformed, that invalidates your position because you are not any more informed than they are. And perhaps less informed due to your misconception that your method of discussion is somehow valid and convincing. Please stop talking to me if you are simply unable to post valid responses on the subject that make actual points using arguments. Parroting the accusation "nonsense" like an obsessive compulsion without stating any justification makes you the person spoting nonsense.
From this point on, I'm going to respond to your using the same infallible logic as you use to form your responses. I'm going to state that you are incorrect, and it will be true every time because I say it is. I'm not going to explain to you why, because I don't need to, because you don't feel like you ever need to.
SubJeff on 2/2/2014 at 10:09
Fine.
I'll explain exactly why I think you are wrong, no personal attacks.
But the first time you respond with something that shows that you haven't bothered or incapable of being reasonable you'd better take whatever you get in return, and like it.
Platinumoxicity on 2/2/2014 at 10:10
Quote Posted by NuEffect
Fine.
I'll explain
exactly why I think you are wrong, no personal attacks.
But the first time you respond with something that shows that you haven't bothered or incapable of being reasonable you'd better take whatever you get in return, and like it.
That's all I ask. Thanks.
FatSpy on 2/2/2014 at 12:43
Quote Posted by GodzillaX8
They also want to encourage early adoption, thereby also increasing word of mouth marketing if the game turns out to be great. It's not all tinfoil hat greedy corporation conspiracy lunacy.
You're the one who has to decide whether or not the purchase is worth the price with the information they provide you. Don't try to blame the companies for your poor purchasing choices.
I still don't get how you guys can call the idea "tinfoil hat conspiracy lunacy" when it's a pretty commonly acknowledged. Even when you yourself don't deny the idea just tack on another reason for them to do preorders.
Furthermore I'm not blaming anyone on my purchase choice because I already said "I can just wait for the game of the year edition." I'm just pointing out that your guys idea that "Pre-orders are used to guarantee more sales for a game in case it doesn't have a good reputation" being crazy is just wrong considering the fact that it's a commonly held idea, it's not even off the wall by enemy means, and there are a bunch of awful broken games that benefited from pre-orders (alien colonial marines for example). I'm trying to determine if you guys are being serious or are just flinging insults to break down the other side because that's pretty much 99% of forum arguments.
Jason Moyer on 2/2/2014 at 19:26
Boom bam boink $33 from GMG and now I await my key on release day. Thanks for the heads up on the coupon.
Quote Posted by Brethren
Yep, as long as you order the "Master Thief" edition, you'll get it.
According to the GMG page, you get the Bank Heist mission by preordering either version. The "Master Thief" edition just comes with some digital art extras (artbook/comic), the soundtrack, and some sort of (*cough*cheater*cough*) DLC pack that gives you optional in-game consumables.
