CCCToad on 18/12/2010 at 17:48
Quote Posted by Kolya
You better don't visit wikileaks sites if you're a student in the US, it could damage your career. Several universities have sent out warnings in this regard to their students because they might not pass security screenings for government service. Meanwhile the US Airforce simply blocks access to sites like the New York Times(!), Le Monde, Spiegel, Guardian, with a message saying that internet access is monitored.
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Queue on 18/12/2010 at 18:26
Quote Posted by Kolya
Without the USA we wouldn't have democracy and freedom of speech here. That's why it's so weird, alienating and depressing to see these increasing totalitarian signs coming from the States. And when I joke about it, I'm just trying to express my solidarity with those other Americans, of which we have quite a few on these boards. I'm not anti-American, I'm anti-totalitarian. k, just wanted to get this straight.
You have to remember that many Americans can't fathom what living in a totalitarian society would be like--especially when many of us already think our own form of democracy is oppressive enough. And, you also have to keep in mind that an increasing number of Americans would actually
approve of totalitarian rule at this point, as long as it fits their own ideology.
Somehow we have become a deeply divided society, no longer willing to work together for a common good. I don't know if it's from our own media with this concept of entertain-a-news -- that's custom designed to keep either this, that, or the other group all nodding their heads in unison -- or if we've simply lived in a free society (though it's never really been what the ill-informed consider a "free" society... we're a country of laws that must be followed; a republic, not a democracy) for so long we've forgotten our sense of community. Our own sense of individuality and freedom has separated us. And it just gets worse.
Too many people aren't reasonable anymore.
Much like with Hitler, those who scream the loudest are heard by the most who feel they don't have a voice--whether it be about forces squelching one's freedom, or forces standing up for one's freedom. Both deepen the divide because those listening have lost their sense of rationality.
But that's just my take on it. I'm just waiting for day when we finally break the union up, and put all the darkies back in chains.
SeriousCallersOnly on 23/12/2010 at 20:41
Hiya!
Won't see this reported on CNN:
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http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/node/345)
Among those arrested were RAY McGOVERN, a former CIA analyst who used to provide the president’s daily briefings, DANIEL ELLSBERG, who released the government’s Pentagon Papers during the Nixon administration, and CHRIS HEDGES, former war correspondent for the New York Times.
CCCToad on 26/12/2010 at 04:10
Another Cable disproves a statement made on the forums that Obama was a huge improvement over Bush because he "tried to curb the worst of the Bush abuses"
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n its first months in office, the Obama administration sought to protect Bush administration officials facing criminal investigation overseas for their involvement in establishing policies the that governed interrogations of detained terrorist suspects. A "confidential" April 17, 2009, cable sent from the US embassy in Madrid to the State Department—one of the 251,287 cables obtained by WikiLeaks—details how the Obama administration, working with Republicans, leaned on Spain to derail this potential prosecution.
The previous month, a Spanish human rights group called the Association for the Dignity of Spanish Prisoners had requested that Spain's National Court indict six former Bush officials for, as the cable describes it, "creating a legal framework that allegedly permitted torture." The six were former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales; David Addington, former chief of staff and legal adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney; William Haynes, the Pentagon's former general counsel; Douglas Feith, former undersecretary of defense for policy; Jay Bybee, former head of the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel; and John Yoo, a former official in the Office of Legal Counsel. The human rights group contended that Spain had a duty to open an investigation under the nation's "universal jurisdiction" law, which permits its legal system to prosecute overseas human rights crimes involving Spanish citizens and residents. Five Guantanamo detainees, the group maintained, fit that criteria.
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http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/12/wikileaks-cable-obama-quashed-torture-investigation)
Rug Burn Junky on 26/12/2010 at 04:31
A) you really are a passive aggressive douchebag.
B) preventing prosecution by foreign states for prior acts has nothing what-so-ever to do with the current severity and magnitude of those same acts, all of which has, you know, been curbed.
But don't let being so spectacularly fucking wrong get in the way of your desperate attempt to lash out at those who highlight your displays of stupidity time and time again.
CCCToad on 26/12/2010 at 04:48
Do you actually have anything specific, or is Obama better just because he is? Or is it like your vague and long since disproven assertion that unethical practices on Wall Street had nothing to do with the financial crisis?
I can cite dozens of examples where Obama's administration has worked to continue and cover up Bush era human rights and civil liberties abuses, and nobody here (since I expect you to simply respond with with a barrage of adolescent profanity, I'd be more receptive to another poster) can demonstrate that enhanced interrogation is not used in the rendition program. Even anyone can show that, its a bit of moot point since I can attest personally (if you don't believe my word, its in the wikileaks Afghan leak) we have simply switched to handing those prisoners over to groups like the ANP we know will use full-fledged torture methods that go far beyond enhanced interrogation.
In another cable, I had to eat my own words on this one. This particular conspiracy theory was one that I thought was pretty ridiculous until now: that the US is conspiring to force genetically modified food(in this case, Monsato's MON-810 BT Corn) onto the world. Well....I was wrong:
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Both the GOF and the Commission have suggested that their
respective actions should not alarm us since they are only
cultivation rather than import bans. We see the cultivation ban as a
first step, at least by anti-GMO advocates, who will move next to ban
or further restrict imports. (The environment minister's top aide
told us that people have a right not to buy meat raised on biotech
feed, even though she acknowledged there was no possible scientific
basis for a feed based distinction.) Further, we should not be
prepared to cede on cultivation because of our considerable planting
seed business in Europe and because farmers, once they have had
experience with biotech, become its staunchest supporters.
Country team Paris recommends that we calibrate a target
retaliation list that causes some pain across the EU since this is a
collective responsibility, but that also focuses in part on the
worst culprits. The list should be measured rather than vicious and
must be sustainable over the long term, since we should not expect an
early victory.
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http://213.251.145.96/cable/2007/12/07PARIS4723.html)
Rug Burn Junky on 26/12/2010 at 04:53
As dull as you are, and as much I pity you therefore, I feel no need to stick around to help you with your axe grinding. Demonstrating anything specific to you is pointless, because it won't penetrate your thick skull regardless.
Merry christmas.
CCCToad on 26/12/2010 at 05:14
I think you're just too blinded by partisan loyalty to admit that Obama has not stopped the US from continuing to move backwards on Human Rights and Civil Liberties issues.
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