Rug Burn Junky on 3/3/2008 at 16:55
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The most competent and objective critic of hers would be Eric Hitchens, Vatican has even invited him to make a summary of her actions. Why is he respectable? Because his critics is much more sophisticated than your overly emotional shortcuts.
Ha, You've obviously never read
Christopher Hitchens's work, because if you had, you would know that one thing he does not do is shy away from lambasting and denigrating his intellectual inferiors in pretty much the same way I do, so don't think you're doing anything other than embarrassing yourself by saying that. Nor should you confuse the logical force of my assertions as being in any way, shape or form overly emotional. Honestly, someone with your demonstratively poor intellectual ability really does not have the standing to make any judgments about the sophistication of my arguments. Especially if you can't be bothered to understand the rather simple case I've laid out before you, as so eloquently summarized by both Morte and fett.
You'll also be pleased to discover that the critics(sic) which I've offered in this thread are more or less a word for word summary of the views he expressed in the interview to which I linked earlier. So thanks for your endorsement, kiddo.
Epos Nix on 3/3/2008 at 17:07
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No medicines, no healthcare, no doctors.
...remind me again what medicine Jesus used to heal the sickly? Or did he just have a really good healthcare plan.
Vivian on 3/3/2008 at 17:38
I'm going to borrow your style for this:
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Then good luck with re-definition and re-classification of the species,
Thanks.
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And along that I'm a racist for you, because I suggested a heretical thought that they may have lesser average intelligence. NUMEROUS OTHER THINGS ABOUT RACISM ETC bit dull (
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What? Racist? I called you an idiot for making totally unfounded statements and trying to pass them off as self-evident facts. In fact, I didn't even call you an idiot, I just implied it. The closest I got to calling you a racist was when I said you sounded like a closet case when you suggested new guineans could be thought of as beast-men, which wasn't a totally unfair accusation in the context, I think.
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Like if his psyche had something to do with the size of his head, doh !!!
Of course it does. Thats where the brain goes. The brain probably has something to do with psychology. The relative size of the braincase has been used as an indicator of cognitive ability a lot in studying humans and other animals.
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It seems you‘re not willing to discuss their psychological and ethical sophistication, so instead you are constantly turning attention to physical features which weren't originally of my concern. You sugest psychological, ethical and cultural sophistication it's not the same, but there it ends for you and you refuse to examine it further - and let's talk about the size of the skull and shit instead, yes!?
Artefacts and bones is all we've got with fossil/subfossil people. What else is there to talk about with issues like this? Oh yes, thats right. Forest gump.
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Not that you wouldn't be able to think for yourself on the street : „Heeey, he looks like a Neanderthal!“. Don't tell me. There is a little racist in every antrophologist. It must be. Otherwise this field wouldn't work.
And all these are reasons
to suppose, not to be sure. Please invent a time machine, go back to Upper Paleolithic period, bring a batch of carefully selected living subjects back with you, perform a series of intelligence tests and observations, ideally perform cranial autopsies on deceased ones and do necessary measurements. Then you'll maybe have a serious empirical proof in your hands. Nobel Prize waits for you.
Science is a series of systematic suppositions that are tested against the available evidence. What science isn't, incidentally, is the juvenile sarcastic wailing of a chronic bed-wetter who just managed to grossly insult my entire field and make himself look like an idiot in the process. 'Why don't you get a time-machine and find out instead of making all these suppositions?' Hmm, I dunno. Why
don't I get a time machine and find out? Well here's why: Fuck off. And maybe fuck off and find out what you're talking about before you start talking about it.
jtr7 on 3/3/2008 at 18:31
Dammit! What's the WHOLE story about Calcutta? Is everybody who isn't furthering the Catholic agenda, but wants to aid the dying, kept out? Are the only non-Catholics and non-diseased allowed in journalists and writers? What's preventing those who know the truth from going in and making reparations? Is there anybody in the middle on this one? Is there no one who disagrees who isn't hateful? What the hell is being done?:mad:
fett on 3/3/2008 at 19:51
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Dammit! What's the WHOLE story about Calcutta? Is everybody who isn't furthering the Catholic agenda, but wants to aid the dying, kept out? Are the only non-Catholics and non-diseased allowed in journalists and writers? What's preventing those who know the truth from going in and making reparations? Is there anybody in the middle on this one? Is there no one who disagrees who isn't hateful? What the hell is being done?:mad:
What's preventing them? It's not their money! Can I come to your house and re-arrange your budget for you? Thanks! I guess you're not versed in the way "non-profit" organizations work.
And yeah, pretty much, if you're outside of the RC camp, you don't get to hang around for very long. This may come as a surprise, but there are still places in the world where the [Roman] Catholic Church still dictates social policy and Calcutta is one of them. You can save your religious outrage for Google where you might also do a search for "Africa" and "Condoms." It'll be a shocker, no mistake. ;)
Thief13x on 3/3/2008 at 20:04
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one thing he does not do is shy away from lambasting and denigrating his intellectual inferiors in pretty much the same way I do, so don't think you're doing anything other than embarrassing yourself by saying that.
holy shit SCOOOOOOORES!!!!!!!! didn't see that one comin nice
as for the original post, the world will be united when highschools are united..the preps, emo's, jocks, etc, all hang out together, because thats exactly how countries naturally behave, like highschoolers. If we're all happily leaving in a worldwide utopia one day, there will be that one asshole that wants more than his share, and will kill to get it.
Epos Nix on 3/3/2008 at 20:42
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What's preventing them? It's not their money!
I don't mind RBJ making himself look like an epic ass every chance he gets (I mean, he is quite good at it), but I hold you at a higher standard fett!
First off, the Missionaries of Charity is a hospice for the poor and lonely; a place for them to go and live the rest of their lives so they don't have to die alone. While medical treatment in these hospices may be substandard, it was never their goal to offer up primary health care. There are
many Catholic run hospitals in existence whose purpose is just that and I bet a good sum of those donations are diverted to these hospitals.
As for the Catholic overtones: I find it highly unlikely that anyone who does not want to be in one of these hospices is being forced to stay. On the contrary, the success of Mother Teresa's order (with 517 missions and counting) is most likely due to the fact that it offers something that hospitals are severely lacking: loving-compassion to those whom society shuns. Its hard to put a monetary value on this service, but I imagine having the feeling of being loved by a person of any religion is more comforting than dying in an alley.
And I'd like to hear more about your claim that Calcutta's social policy is being dictated by the Catholics. I have no way to know for sure, but something about the idea that Christians make up less than 1% of 4.5 million people puts doubt into my mind. Nevermind the fact that Calcutta's red light district employs some 10,000 sex workers... (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcutta) (source)
jtr7 on 3/3/2008 at 20:51
Hahaha! That's not what's happening, Fett. It's not religious outrage. Ignorance is NOT idiocy, but either one can be the cause, and the other the effect. My point is, why are the Catholics running the show, and in a Hindu region? With all the human rights violations going on there, where are the Catholic-hating humanitarians and their organized relief efforts? There are a few charities, but most of them are religious. What's stopping the expletive-screeching egotists from showing the religious how to get things done? Of course lack of funding's an obstacle. Organize, fund-raise, take out loans, write for grants, have a hundred bake sales. Show the world who is truly enlightened. Displace the charity-workers with people who will fix the problem. Easy to say.
Mother Teresa was a bitch. A religious turd from the Catholic arsehole of antiquated beliefs. But I'm not gonna call everybody an idiot who hasn't had a reason to think otherwise, and who is willing and capable of learning. I'm also not going to call anybody who thinks RBJ is a decent fellow and idiot, either. You damn well know not everybody knows everything about any one thing, let alone many things. Ignorance also arises from thinking you are more right, instead of checking yourself. You can't possibly have the all the pieces to form a full picture, and you can share your knowledge if ignorance in others upsets you so damn much. I only want the baseball bat-swinging philosophers to truly educate with a more holistic approach, and the practicioners of ignorance to allow foreign knowledge in.
Yes. There's more going on, and it's much, much, more complicated than anyone knows. You are correct. What's the solution, and why haven't the know-it-alls shown their worth instead of wasting space massaging their throbbing, turgid egos. "Behold the majesty that is my self-importance! You know what I'm saying is important because I say it loud and vulgar!"
Enough talk. Just say we don't know how to change the real problems, and we really can't be arsed with anybody else's problems.
piano-sam on 3/3/2008 at 20:58
It's not all that relevant, but the new theory on neanderthal man is that they weren't a human ancestor, but rather a paralell evolution from a common ancestor back at the hairy ape thing stage.
