bjack on 21/10/2016 at 21:36
Both Gore and Kerry called their election losses into question. Gore because he felt is won Florida and Kerry Ohio (as I recall). Kerry's stalling was not as long as Gore's. Post voting polls performed by media outlets showed Kerry had won Ohio, yet real vote counts proved otherwise. Kerry and his team (including most of the media) could not believe the actual vote count, since it did not match their preconceived notions. Sort of like how Brexit was losing before it won.
Otherwise, Trump's choice of words in the debate on this voting issue were less than adequate. One may go as far as saying they were immature and foolish. If he had said, "If irregularities are apparent and the race is close, then I may contest the result as have my predecessors." But no... (queue John Belushi on SNL news).
Renzatic on 21/10/2016 at 21:46
Because he can raise a fuckton of stank over it. He can demand recounts, investigations, make all kinds of wild accusations. The whole thing could end up being a huge mess, depending on how far he's willing to go.
heywood on 21/10/2016 at 21:50
Trump must have known that question was coming, I was surprised he wasn't better prepared for it. He could have just said that his campaign and supporters will be watching the election closely, and if it is conducted fairly and cleanly, he will accept the results once they are certified. But if there are signs of manipulation or fraud, he reserves his full legal rights to challenge the results and block certification just as other candidates have done in the past. Instead, the glib "wait and see" response he gave in the debate left it wide open to various interpretations including the possibility that he is going to incite protests or riots even if he loses a clean vote. He played right into the hands of a hostile media who took the opportunity to assume the worst possible interpretation and skewer him with it.
Renzatic on 21/10/2016 at 21:59
Yeah, you laugh now, but just wait. One day, ManBearPig will come for you. :mad:
bjack on 21/10/2016 at 22:04
I'm serial! ;) No really!
heywood on 21/10/2016 at 22:13
I can't really blame Gore for trying. It was so close. After the mandatory recount, there was still less than 1000 votes between them in Florida.
catbarf on 21/10/2016 at 22:57
Quote Posted by heywood
Trump must have known that question was coming, I was surprised he wasn't better prepared for it.
I'm usually reluctant to make armchair psychology speculation, but I seriously think that his ego cannot handle being put in a contest where he actually has to win an argument and can't simply let money (and lawyers) talk for him. He seems to make no effort to prepare for the debates and his rhetorical strategy seems non-existent, and attacks on his ego cause him to go off the deep end defending himself. It's not just that he isn't a politician, it's that he's fundamentally incapable of politics. Even leaving aside the scandals and absurd policy promises, his personal behavior this election cycle has been downright embarrassing.
Nicker on 22/10/2016 at 04:24
Quote Posted by bjack
Both Gore and Kerry called their election losses into question. Gore because he felt is won Florida and Kerry Ohio (as I recall). Kerry's stalling was not as long as Gore's.
Gore didn't force a recount and he didn't "stall". That was required by state law. Neither did he question the legitimacy of the electoral system. Nor did he do so weeks BEFORE the election.
bjack on 22/10/2016 at 05:43
Because he did not think he would lose. Once he found he lost, he acted like a little bitch. Your recollection is valid to you, as is mine to me. The matter would have been over if he conceded though. He chose to contest, therefore the “required” recount. Spin it anyway you want and even spin it to saying the Supreme Court chose Bush over Gore. In any case, Man Bear Pig is coming to get you :)
