Starker on 27/9/2016 at 10:35
Quote Posted by Vivian
You own the property rights to the calculation you did about trump winning?
It's just a fancy way of saying, "You are all wrong and I'm right, because reasons." Proprietary reasons. Of extreme probability.
Trump is, like, the Charlie Sheen of winning.
Vivian on 27/9/2016 at 11:26
I thought it was dynamic micro-temporal probability?
demagogue on 27/9/2016 at 13:16
Finally actually watched it.
I mean Trump started repeating irrelevant dribble by the end. You'd think his entire foreign policy reduces to the question "but are we turning a profit?", as if it didn't occur to him that national or global security was actually the goal, to stop China & Mexico from somehow killing us (which about covered his entire domestic policy too), and almost as an aside he bothered to throw in "the nuclear" as the most important issue without further detail.
He brought up personal spats with Sean Hannity and Rosie O'Donnel in a presidential debate. Are you fucking kidding me?
catbarf on 27/9/2016 at 15:14
Quote Posted by demagogue
I mean Trump started repeating irrelevant dribble by the end. You'd think his entire foreign policy reduces to the question "but are we turning a profit?", as if it didn't occur to him that national or global security was actually the goal, to stop China & Mexico from somehow killing us (which about covered his entire domestic policy too), and almost as an aside he bothered to throw in "the nuclear" as the most important issue without further detail.
He brought up personal spats with Sean Hannity and Rosie O'Donnel in a presidential debate. Are you fucking kidding me?
I'm always surprised at how downright juvenile Trump is in his responses. Like, when confronted about supporting the Iraq invasion, he could have easily played it off as 'I did, but changed my mind as new facts came to light', and then turned it around on Clinton by pointing out her record of supporting military interventions. But instead he bloviated for what seemed like hours about how he told Sean Hannity in private that he didn't support the invasion and you better call him up right now and confirm, mister.
Admittedly I only saw the second half of the debate, but from my perspective it looked like she blew him out of the water. He was a defensive, ranting mess. I think Clinton's campaign has learned that Trump's ego ensures he'll address every criticism thrown at him, and his narcissistic need to defend his image prevented him from going on the offensive.
Renault on 27/9/2016 at 16:58
I don't see how anyone who watched this debate could say Trump "won" it. At best it was close, or a draw.
I also don't understand how anyone could say a draw favors Trump, when Hillary is leading the polls (albeit by a very small margin). Words like "momentum" or "enthusiasm" are meaningless, not quantifiable, and strictly subjective.
While I thought Trump made a few good points overall, in the end he said too many stupid things to surpass Hillary in any way. Things like how he is working for minorities because he has a club that employs them. Or that Stop & Frisk isn't unconstitutional. Or that he's waiting for his audit to be over before he submits his tax returns.
Renzatic on 27/9/2016 at 17:43
Quote Posted by demagogue
He brought up personal spats with Sean Hannity and Rosie O'Donnel in a presidential debate. Are you fucking kidding me?
He wasn't airing his dirty laundry with Hannity. He was citing him as a source while making the claims that he stood against the war in Iraq. This isn't verbatim, but he basically said: "I totally thought that war was stupid. I may have said maybe yeah about it before on Stern, but later on I thought it was stupid. Just ask Hannity. I told him. I totally told him. Hannity and I had all these discussion about how stupid the war was. He'll vouch for me."
demagogue on 27/9/2016 at 18:22
I was thinking what catbarf said. Who goes into a presidential debate with arguments like: just last week my golfing buddy was just telling me on the phone "boy, you sure think X don't you?" I guess that means I do. Call him up. He'll totally vouch for it.
I mean it sounds like the kind of thing a cheating husband tells his skeptical wife to prove he was really on that fishing trip last weekend, just call one of the guys & they'll totally vouch for it. Even if he's telling the truth, it's ridiculous at that level.
Jason Moyer on 27/9/2016 at 18:31
The line that summed up the debate for me was "that's because I'm smart". You know what a smart person would have done there? They wouldn't have said that. In fact, they'd probably never say that because smart people don't need to constantly remind themselves and everyone else about it.
Renzatic on 27/9/2016 at 18:31
Apparently the unprepared and desperate. It was bad enough that he said it, the fact he kept repeating it over and over and over again within the same spiel just made him look that much worse.
It doesn't matter what Hannity says. Without documented proof to back it up, any claim he makes is no more substantial than a fart in the wind.
Nicker on 29/9/2016 at 01:38
The trouble is, it doesn't seem to matter if Trump's demonstrable bullshit IS documented or not, the more he spouts the higher his numbers go.
The birther thing. He's standing in front of the busted cookie jar, crumbs and chocolate smeared on his face, a half munched biscuit in each tiny fist, insisting, "I was stopping Hillary from taking them"!
And his half-witted supporters go, "OK - sounds reasonable to us! Hyup!"
WTF USA?
