system shocker on 27/10/2002 at 21:37
hi, i finaly made it up to the final level but can't decide who to trust. can you guyz please vote. thanx
dormcat on 28/10/2002 at 02:45
Well, "who to trust" and "which ending should I choose" are different questions, IMHO. Tong is very trustworthy, but his idea is too idealistic, and it takes only a decade or two to rebuild the society. Besides, JC COULD have been killed by the explosion. Ask Tong if he cares.:nono:
I never trust Everett, but I like the ending, especially seeing JC and Everett replace Simons and Page, respectively.:cool: Why not let Nicolette walks by, just like Maggie Chow?:cheeky:
santaClaws on 29/10/2002 at 15:10
don't trust anybody.
:sly:
system shocker on 29/10/2002 at 21:50
lol:laff:
Fade on 30/10/2002 at 04:46
Everett is NOT trustworthy. Remember that this guy is the head of the organisation than once ran the world with an invisible hand, had Page as a member, and had you gassed unconscious. You did find the guy 'on ice' didn't you?
Tong is trustworthy, but he's also a loon. His idealism has completly blinded him to the actual consquences of blowing the place. Not only would it simply serve as an opportunity for the big players (such as securtity-conscious governments) to seize power in the chaos, even if it did work a new Dark Age would be BAD. Remember the last one?
Helios may or may not be trustworthy, and may be overestimating himself. In addition, this dooms humanity to secret rule again. But he's intelligent, probably incorruptable, and you get to be a god. :) It's not a good choice, but it's the only possible one.
Fascist on 2/11/2002 at 01:01
Everett is not trustworthy and cannot rule. He must not rule!
I never liked Everett after the Ice Man incident so i thought that once the Illuminati took power, i would kill Everett and i'd have good'ol Stanton take his place. Everett is just as bad as Page anyway.
Master Villain on 2/11/2002 at 07:41
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Originally posted by Fade It's not a good choice, but it's the only possible one. I think you mean "only viable one" and that's just your opinion.... I thought knocking the world back a few decades was a good idea. Besides, I wanted to spread Bob Page thinly across the landscape and THAT is what matters - killing him in the biggest explosion EVER! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!
Rolander on 15/11/2002 at 15:11
Everett is practically as bad as Page. He is just more subtle about it ...
Tong is ok, but blowing up A51 is not necessarily good. Technology is neither good nor bad, but is just a tool to be used.
I choose Helios as much as to preserve the technology, other than a moral choice about 'necessarity of creating God (to guide man)'. Blowing it all up is a waste of resources and time (A51 could still be created after a Dark Age).
"Listen, Bob. A gun is just a tool. No better and no worse than any other tool, a shovel - or an axe or a saddle or a stove or anything. Think of it always that way. A gun is as good - and as bad - as the man who carries it. Remember that." - Shane
Dragonclaw on 15/11/2002 at 18:24
Actually, the gun/tool comparison hit's the nail on the head for me.
The ending I prefer is the Tong one. And why? To go along with your parallel, I'd also choose to disarm someone who cannot handle a weapon, or who uses it for the worse.
The point is: Give them more time to learn, and they might learn.
Rolander on 15/11/2002 at 20:39
I won't bet on that, Dragonclaw ... Helios' comment on how prone Mankind is to self-destruction is pretty accurate.
I remember one interesting arguement put forward by someone about the 3 endings.
Basically, he said something along the lines of:
We've tried Dark Age before and we've failed; we've tried Illuminati before and we failed, but we've never tried Helios before ... so I say we go for Helios.
And frankly, IM Arrogant O the Dark Age style is not significantly better than Illuminati. Yes, the loss of global networking limits opportunities for global domination, but even low-scale governments are still subject to powerplay by ppl like Everett and Page. The change in scale just means a different set of challenges faced by such conspirators.
