Starker on 25/6/2020 at 08:08
Quote Posted by Tocky
That's... not... blue?
When you get down to wavelenghts and stuff, it is undoubtedly blue. But due to the way the photo is taken, for a lot of people, their brain makes assumptions about the dress in such a way that makes them unable to see it as anything other but white and gold. Some people actually switch and start seeing different colours after a while, though apparently people are (
https://slate.com/technology/2017/04/heres-why-people-saw-the-dress-differently.html) more likely to switch to the true colour of the dress than vice versa.
Kolya on 25/6/2020 at 08:37
Hahaha, nice. :D I usually enjoy to read dema's intelligent posts. He touched on a pet peeve of mine there and I still have trouble believing he's being entirely serious. However I'm sorry about the tone.
rachel on 25/6/2020 at 10:06
I was so confused at first because in my field, NLP is short for Natural Language Processing...
Sulphur on 25/6/2020 at 10:44
Haha, yeah, that tends to happen. Dude walked up to me once and said, 'Hey, you know we use that in our learning algorithm?' And I'm like, 'Really? You cracked cognition in machine learning?', and we both just stared at each other in confusion for five seconds.
Marecki on 25/6/2020 at 11:00
I had that too a few years ago, raph. When I first heard about NLP-the-pseudoscience.
Back to the topic: yes, I have in fact had a deep, hard look at myself on several occasions, including having gone to an isolation retreat for that very purpose. I still wish I hadn't, and these days whenever I hear people say how great practising mindfulness is for everything (either it has become something of a fad or I've somehow ended up surrounded by people who are into such stuff), I inwardly go "Yeah, right". That's all I will say about this on teh Intarwebz.
qolelis on 25/6/2020 at 12:09
Quote Posted by Sulphur
Let's crunch that down to what we know for sure: read the interview I linked, or heck, just read the quote from the interview I posted in that same post, and draw your own conclusions. I did the sourcing already, I'm just beyond amused anyone addressing it hasn't actually checked it out.
"Nah, man, your personal perception of the world is totally wrong.
I came up with
that quote. They all stole it from me. I want my money and I want it now. I could link to this article where I interview myself for proof, but, nah, you just have to google it yourself; I'm not your babysitter."
heywood on 25/6/2020 at 12:12
Quote Posted by Sulphur
All right, jokes aside, just to clarify: I think that's a very down to earth take on the phenomenologist equation, which is something I read up on only because I saw Dark Star when I was a teenager and it tickled me hard. (Anyone who hasn't seen Dark Star -- well, it's not aged well, but it's still got one of the best endings to a sci-fi comedy known to man/).
I'm surprised we haven't discussed that film before. Or maybe it's discussed extensively in one of the "what are you watching" megathreads which means I would have missed it. The first and only time I watched it was late at night when I was over-tired, a bit depressed, and had insomnia, and that turned out of be the perfect mood for it. It failed as a spoof, but works in other ways and inspired Alien. I thought it was interesting that you brought it up in the context of this discussion, because the only time I get philosophical is when I'm isolated with too much time on my hands, just like the characters in the film.
Quote Posted by raph
I was so confused at first because in my field, NLP is short for Natural Language Processing...
Me too! In fact it was your post that made me Google it to see what Kolya was talking about.
Sulphur on 25/6/2020 at 12:23
Quote Posted by qolelis
"Nah, man, your personal perception of the world is totally wrong.
I came up with
that quote. They all stole it from me. I want my money and I want it now. I could link to this article where I interview myself for proof, but, nah, you just have to google it yourself; I'm not your babysitter."
Let's not kneejerk. Jasmine Walkes is credited on the (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_the_Bone_(Steven_Wilson_album)) wikipedia page, and on Wilson's (
http://stevenwilsonhq.com/sw/bone-track-track-guide-part-1/) own page for the album. It takes all of 5 seconds to verify it. Contrast: is there a movie with that quote? No one's provided that information. Is that Janeane Garofalo? No one's provided proof of that beyond saying 'yeah that's totally her!' based on an impression of her from a single movie.
Now if you want to have a philosophical argument over what truth is relative to how you experience reality, that's fine. But let's not use this specific instance of stupidity as a pro forma argument to prove it, yeah?
Quote Posted by heywood
I thought it was interesting that you brought it up in the context of this discussion, because the only time I get philosophical is when I'm isolated with too much time on my hands, just like the characters in the film.
It does hark back to what Gray was talking about, doesn't it? We're all basically stuck at home and have nothing to do in the small hours, ergo this thread's genesis. Phenomenology by itself is extremely interesting to me, and not just as a vehicle for a great story. What dema said reminded me about the other sort of related (epistemological) discussions we've had here a long time ago.
qolelis on 25/6/2020 at 12:35
See, that wasn't so hard, was it!?
The quote itself? I'm not overly impressed. Everything that can be said has already been said.
Sulphur on 25/6/2020 at 12:39
Say, wasn't it Arthur C. Clarke that said that?
I'm just impressed that the old adage of it taking 10 times more work to disprove bullshit than to come up with it keeps being true. I would think someone questioning a fact would be interested enough to independently verify it themselves, but hey, what do I know.