Gingerbread Man on 4/2/2008 at 16:56
Birds don't get electrocuted because they haven't discovered electricity yet, you fucking apes.
fett on 4/2/2008 at 17:40
Due to this conversation, HL2 now makes no fucking sense whatsoever.
heretic on 4/2/2008 at 18:20
Maybe they filled the pool with distilled water.
Martin Karne on 5/2/2008 at 02:11
Quote Posted by fett
I hate to interrupt the nerd fest, but MY GOD if you mean "incorrect" please spell it No, and only capitalize common nouns at the beginning of sentences. Basic electricity my ass. Basic grammar please. PLEASE.
Hey buddy, I try hard but I don't even live near an English speaking country.
Sorry if my english sucks big time.
jtr7 on 5/2/2008 at 04:57
MK, you're not RiderLeangle.;)
Muzman on 5/2/2008 at 05:10
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This brings up a question in my head... Let’s say the power supply was to fall in the water... The electricity from the hot lead needs to reach the ground through the least path of resistance... If the power supply falls in, the least path of resistance is to go through the immediate area of the water, back into the ground lead, not even coming close to the people in the water. The common ground of the house probably has no connectivity to the water in the pool considering the plastic or rubber floor of the pool may not conduct electricity... So, if the power supply fell in, would the electricity immediately find a path directly to the ground causing a short and a circuit breaker to shut off? (if the resistance of the water was little enough for the circuit breaker to detect a short)
This was my thinking. The pool's insulated; household strength power doesn't just wander from place to place zapping things because there's water (like in the movies or games). But Martin is saying...uh... a pool like that with enough minerals in it could ground the circuit? I think. I dunno, I'm no expert either way (plus there's no doubt it's dangerous even if I'm correct. The sides of the pool could be wet, all sorts of unpredictable factors could be in play. But there are devil may care electricty nerds in the world).
The thing about cars and lightning isn't that the tyres provide great insulation against lightning (they might provide enough to tip the balance in your favour against a strike occuring though), but that if there is a strike the car body acts as a sort of Faraday Cage, routing the current around you rather than through you.
Queue on 5/2/2008 at 13:04
What is that thing they've plugged in, anyway? A griddle? They must be European--keeping their beer warm *rim shot*....(and many boos).
Martin Karne on 5/2/2008 at 15:20
Quote Posted by Muzman
This was my thinking. The pool's insulated; household strength power doesn't just wander from place to place zapping things because there's water (like in the movies or games). But Martin is saying...uh... a pool like that with enough minerals in it could ground the circuit? I think. I dunno, I'm no expert either way (plus there's no doubt it's dangerous even if I'm correct. The sides of the pool could be wet, all sorts of unpredictable factors could be in play. But there are devil may care electricty nerds in the world).
The thing about cars and lightning isn't that the tyres provide great insulation against lightning (they might provide enough to tip the balance in your favour against a strike occuring though), but that if there is a strike the car body acts as a sort of Faraday Cage, routing the current around you rather than through you.
No nerd here, just a professional of the area.
Salt water is generated when normal water enters in contact with a human body, and salt water is very conductive, those guys inside their pool are potentially exposed to both poles, even if they're very close in that electrical extension, you shouldn't be doing that if you're some what intelligent.
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Just to make you understand to die you just need a current of 0.03 amperes or 30mA.
Very little and even less when wet. Lets say a battery is not as friendly in water as you might get to believe, it might get you in some troubles.
d0om on 5/2/2008 at 15:54
If you stand on one leg with the rest of you out of the water you should be OK, since the voltage difference across your leg in the water will be small.
If you are lying down in the water with legs towards the power supply then there will be a large voltage differential across the length of your body and you might get a sufficient current across your heart to kill you.
The pool looks quite large so the people a long way away from the power might be safe, the fuses should blow pretty quickly.
Alternatively you could bathe wearing a Faraday cage wire mesh clothing, like they wear to service live power lines. Although, that might get rusty from repeated swims and prove fatal!
Peanuckle on 5/2/2008 at 15:54
What's wrong with this picture? The only people in it are old guys with bad farmers tans. No hot chicks in sight. :(
