Tuco on 28/5/2002 at 14:24
oh yeah, of course. It's wieght that determines armor rating. Once I switched a daedric piece of armor to weight 1, and it turned into light armor... forgot about that =)
Poseidon on 29/5/2002 at 22:30
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Originally posted by mastrwik Was also looking through the editor and saw some I forgot, like BoneMold and DragonScale. I haven't seen any dragonscale in the game though, has anyone else? Yeah, at one time, I had Dragonscale cuirass, helm, boots, and tower shield. It looks very cool, and works well for medium armor early in the game. I believe I bought most of the pieces from various traders. I hung onto it until I ran afoul of an Orc bandit who had a complete suit of Orcish armor. And yes, the final armor rating definitely depends on your skill. My current rating is 48 with the Orcish, and a Dreugh cuirass only rated 49 due to my lower heavy armor skill.
Mehrunes on 29/5/2002 at 22:51
Indoril is Medium Armor. However there is a glitch that can sometimes turn it into heavy in save games.
Here are the actual values...
Heavy: Deadric - 80
Medium: Indoril - 45
Light: Glass - 50
Part of my balancing mod moves deadric and glass down by 10 to 70 and 40 respectively, and moves Indoril up by 5 to 50 to fit into the niche of 'best' Medium armor (As well as improving Orcish and reducing Ebony, among other things).
Keep in mind that these values are modified in-game by your armor skill, and it is the modified values that you see.
Zerker on 30/5/2002 at 11:56
Hey Exodus_Dk, I'm guessing you never checked the stats on a Daedric War axe, or a Daedric War Hammer, huh? I would say Blunt weapons are the "best" weapon choice
Exodus_dk on 30/5/2002 at 20:55
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Originally posted by Zerker Hey Exodus_Dk, I'm guessing you never checked the stats on a Daedric War axe, or a Daedric War Hammer, huh? I would say Blunt weapons are the "best" weapon choice Yeah - for plain damage perhaps they outrank the longblades... But... most artifact weapons in the game(ofcourse not ALL but most) are Longblades - especially the great ones... Furthermore the axe and warhammer are really heavy and twohanders - no shield there :( I know you can still get armor bonuses and enchantment bonusses - but still no blocking.
A daedric dai-katana can hold 21 enchantment points - a katana 18... I don't know what the axe and hammer can hold - plz. list them just for comparison.
But a daedric dai-katana is - anyway you put it - around 30 lbs. lighter than the other two.
However - I don't think that completing the game is going to be easier or harder wether you choose one weapon type or the other.
Turin on 30/5/2002 at 21:30
for some peopel indoril is heavy and for some it is medium, it makes the best sense as medium armor for 2 reasons:
1) as for higher level armor, there are only 3 pieces in the set that weigh over 9 units of weight, doesnt sound like heavy (whereas the best heavy -deadric- has nothing that wieghs below 15 units weight)
2) as for higher level armor, the price is about 1/10 of deadric and you get over half the base armor rating.......which to me implies that it is a different class and it is only a little better than dreugh but for the approx the same price
I havent read any official material from bethesda about it, and if you want to call indoril being medium armor a bug then so be it, but IT IS STILL THE BEST MEDIUM ARMOR IN THE GAME
Tuco on 31/5/2002 at 00:23
... daedric pwnz j00 hard.
howie on 31/5/2002 at 01:28
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Originally posted by Exodus_dk
... Furthermore the<big> axe</big> and warhammer are really heavy and twohanders - no shield there :( I know you can still get armor bonuses and enchantment bonusses - but still no block.... I still have a steel axe but it's one-handed and I do have a shield to block. :confused:
Zerker on 31/5/2002 at 02:10
Heck, I used Short Swords in my first game, and I'm using Spears for my second :) I just happened to take a look at them... but since you wanted to know, and I have the editor open, here's the stats:
The editor values for Enchantment Look like they have an extra zero, so Daedric Dai-Katana is 210 for comparison
Daedric Battle Axe: Chop 1-80, Slash 1-60 Thrust 1-8
Weight 90 (ouch)
Enchantment "Value" 165 (or 16.5 slots)
Daedric War Hammer: Chop 1-70 Slash 1-60 Thrust 1-4
Weight 96
Enchantment "Value" 165 again
Turin on 31/5/2002 at 02:22
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Originally posted by Exodus_dk
Furthermore the axe and warhammer are really heavy and twohanders - no shield there :( I know you can still get armor bonuses and enchantment bonusses - but still no blocking.
if you want to use a 2-hander and still not get hit all the time then all you have to do is this....
get some exquisite appareal (2 rings, shirt, pants/skirt, shoes, robe, ammy) and enchant them all constant effect shield, i forget how high of shield you can actually get doing that but it is really bad ass cause then you have less than 150 with weapon/clothing and you hardly ever get hit.......granted you have to be high enough level to do this that it doesnt really matter at that point:ebil:
