Whatever floats your... seastead?

Jusal on 11/8/2009 at 09:07

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A fringe brand of libertarians have been planning to escape the iron fist of democracy by founding a new country in the middle of the ocean.

(http://www.alternet.org/politics/140253/seasteading%3A_libertarians_set_to_launch_a_%28wet%29_dream_of_%27freedom%27_in_international_waters/) It's like a weird Bioshock LARP, only with less splicers and more nutjobs.

Seriously though, it's hard to believe this isn't somekind of a joke, but apparently (http://seasteading.org/) it isn't.

Their strange (http://seasteading.org/seastead.org/book_beta/section_index.html) "manifesto" should also provide an interesting read.

Xenith on 11/8/2009 at 09:22

Heh, some of the quotes on that site are.... uncanny.

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Economy got you down? Not sure if this whole “American capitalism” thing is working out for you? Looking for cheap housing?

Also, I can already see this commercial:

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"Hey, Jenny, you look down!"
"I sure am: I've been sick, had headaches, and even been seeing things that aren't there!"
"That's just the Plasmid Blues! You need to ease up on the splicing."

Koki on 11/8/2009 at 09:29

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iron fist of democracy

:rolleyes:

hopper on 11/8/2009 at 11:07

Koki and irony never let me down.

Queue on 11/8/2009 at 12:48

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"Utopia!"

PeeperStorm on 12/8/2009 at 03:40

Quote Posted by Koki

iron fist of democracy
:rolleyes:

Don't roll your eyes. In the 1830's Alexis de Tocqueville referred to it as a "tyranny of the majority". Basically a dominant majority can use its will in such a way as to oppress any minorities, to silence dissent, or allow the government to become despotic through apathy and/or fear. You don't have to look hard to find examples.

That being said, those seastead guys clearly don't have both oars in the water.

DaBeast on 12/8/2009 at 05:55

Quote Posted by PeeperStorm

That being said, those seastead guys clearly don't have both oars in the water.

I like it :thumb:

OT: I guess its easy to look at these guys and just laugh at a bunch of crackpots, but real change can take a big step, so I say fair play to them and wish them all the best in their inevitable failure and/or mass suicide.

Koki on 12/8/2009 at 06:11

Quote Posted by PeeperStorm

Don't roll your eyes. In the 1830's Alexis de Tocqueville referred to it as a "tyranny of the majority". Basically a dominant majority can

Wow, it's almost as if it was a DEMOCRACY or something!

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

DaBeast on 12/8/2009 at 07:07

Koki, have you read any stuff on Democracy v Republic? Like strengths and weaknesses?

Democracy is just the same as any ideology, has some good points and some not so good, like the idea that everyone should have a say in everything results in people banding together with the largest group dominating the minorities. Maybe that's fair, maybe it isn't, depends on your perspective.

(note, that I'm not saying a republic is the better, it has it's weaknesses too. The prime one being the same one that all ideologies have and that is corruption)

Shayde on 12/8/2009 at 07:10

blah, blah, blah... two wolves and a sheep.

In other news, I applaud the crazy people and will hold thumbs for some cataclysmic Atlantis style end.