What overturning Roe v. Wade could mean for birth control access, maternal care - by Dia
bob_doe_nz on 26/5/2022 at 03:20
And no Mexicans either it seems.
uncadonego on 26/5/2022 at 04:13
Non-white babies are desperately needed as future 2nd amendment fodder.
Mr.Duck on 26/5/2022 at 06:30
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And no Mexicans either it seems.
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Renzatic on 26/5/2022 at 13:52
Also, no Canadians. They weird us out.
Draxil on 26/5/2022 at 15:31
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I don't know about him, but Pro-Forced Birthers have been committing acts of violence against abortion clinics, doctors who've performed abortions and women who've had or are seeking abortions since the early '90s. Don't tempt that nutjob; he sounds like one of those maniacs who would stone women who are trying to enter a Planned Parenthood clinic. What surprises me is that he claims to be a nurse, yet refers to abortions as 'infanticide' (obviously he's one of the more ignorant nurses *smh*). Tell him and other sexist pigs like him that mask-wearing in stores is being made mandatory again or that they HAVE to get a covid vaccination and see how quickly he turns Pro-Choice. But don't tempt him by asking how much force he'd be willing to use to stop abortion, he sounds mentally ill enough to interpret your question as a challenge.
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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/11/29/us/30abortion-clinic-violence.html)
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https://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/news/a5669/abortion-clinic-protesters/)
Stoning is so last century. That's why God invented guns. "Infant" comes from the Latin verb "fari", "to speak". So do such words as defame, affable, fable, and fate. With the prefix "in-" it means "not speaking", and was used to denote children from the fetal stage through their early years. You can learn a lot of things when your preferred reading source isn't
Cosmopolitan.
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Let's assume that a fetus is a person. Now the question is, which person has the most rights, the woman or the baby? I say the woman. You say the baby. Then I ask, is it YOUR body carrying the baby. And you say, no it is not. And I say, then STFU because it's not your choice.
Good, let's assume the fetus is a person. Then abortion is murder on a previously unknown scale, vastly greater than every war in human history. 73 million per year, world-wide. And your justification for killing another person is that it's an individual's choice, not self defense or some other recognized reason for killing. Of course that justification would logically persist for as long as the child was dependent on you for life, if logic were your thing (which it obviously isn't).
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Forcing others to abide by your choice for their body is SLAVERY.
You are denser than a tungsten brick. Slavery denies all rights and treats a person like property. Pregnant women aren't treated like property--they can vote, pursue an education, work, hold office, buy and sell property, and travel freely. Laws force people to abide by society's agreed upon values. Laws against abortion prevent a pregnant woman from killing another human being, or more accurately prevent a third party from killing the human being that resides in a woman's body without cause. A woman can always choose to induce abortion herself if she's willing to take the risk.
Laws prevent my doctor from grafting a chainsaw onto my arm, too, forcing me to abide by someone else's choice. SLAVERY.
Starker! The moment I saw your name I could tell what your post was going to be about. I'll happily answer your question about gun ownership (though I feel we've covered this ground a few times before) if you'll answer the as of yet unanswered question I've posed to people in this thread who support abortion: at what point during human development would you consider limiting abortion, if any, and why? Basically, when is a developing human life a person that has rights?
Per the CDC in 2019, 66.6% of all abortions performed in the US were for minority pregnancies. 38.6% of all African-American pregnancies ended in abortion vs 11.2% of white pregnancies. Black Americans were less than 13% of the population in 2019. That's an enormous racial disparity and should be seen as evidence that the eugenics movement in this country is not only alive but thriving, and Planned Parenthood is still leading the way. It's a white-supremacist wet dream.
Edited to add: That 38.6% of African American pregnancies ending in abortion and 66.6% of minority figure are likely on the low end, since CDC info doesn't include abortion information from California or Maryland (but does include D.C.). Both of these states have cities with high black populations, and California is 40% Hispanic.
Renzatic on 26/5/2022 at 19:47
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Laws prevent my doctor from grafting a chainsaw onto my arm, too, forcing me to abide by someone else's choice. SLAVERY.
But nothing's stopping you from doing it to yourself. If you really want that chainsaw arm, you'll find a way.
Draxil on 26/5/2022 at 20:22
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But nothing's stopping you from doing it to yourself. If you really want that chainsaw arm, you'll find a way.
Exactly my point. And oh yeah, it'll happen. Once I don't need that pesky left hand to earn a living. Nothing says "Don't get an abortion" like a chainsaw-armed-misogynist waving a giant sized picture of fetal remains and an 18" gas-powered Stihl while yelling "WHORES". While remaining the prescribed distance from the clinic, of course. My only regret is I won't be able to throw stones, too.
mopgoblin on 26/5/2022 at 21:28
And now we're at the point where minority women are apparently super keen on participating in a big old racist conspiracy against themselves. Sounds very plausible, definitely grounded in reality. And what, if safe abortion is banned, then dying in greater numbers from dodgy back-alley abortions is gonna be their punishment?
Renzatic on 27/5/2022 at 00:57
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And what, if safe abortion is banned, then dying in greater numbers from dodgy back-alley abortions is gonna be their punishment?
See? It's a problem that solves itself. God always finds a way to punish the sinners.
