What overturning Roe v. Wade could mean for birth control access, maternal care - by Dia
mopgoblin on 2/8/2022 at 06:44
Yeah lots of anti-choice shitbags have a silent exception in their minds for themselves or their families, whether they know it or not. They'll often go right back to their anti-choice bullshit afterwards, too, because to them it was special circumstances.
Dia on 2/8/2022 at 14:56
Yep, and those anti-choice (pro-forced birthers) are out for blood .... of women other than those in their own families. Some pro-lifers want women who've had abortions subject to arrest, prosecution and the death penalty. The death penalty. How very pro-life. What's next? Burning women at the stake as heretics because they may have had an abortion? Women have already been arrested and jailed because they were suspected of causing their own miscarriages, even though doctors agree that in 95% of miscarriages, it's damn near impossible to determine the actual cause. *sighs* It won't surprise me when states like Texas rule that rape and pedophilia are legal. Time to get out the red handmaid burkas and white bonnets yet? Though I imagine the women who 'belong' to the elite 1% won't ever have to wear them and will steadfastly regurgitate their head of the household's misogynistic opinions. *smh*
mxleader on 7/8/2022 at 04:24
Is the overturning of Roe vs. Wade a states rights issue more than a women's rights issue on the national level?
demagogue on 7/8/2022 at 05:26
I'm not sure your question works the way it's posed, but I'll talk about the general situation and that may answer it anyway.
The Dobbs Supreme Court decision took away the unconstitutionality of total abortion restrictions, which effectively gave (or returned to) states the power to pass restrictive laws. I don't think the pro-life people are pushing it because they support states rights per se. They're just pro-life and state law is the way they can go about it. I imagine most of them would want there to be a federal ban on abortions, that trumps states rights, if it were politically possible based on their values.
Then other people are on the pro choice or women's rights side of the coin, and they have the same requirement of making it legally allowable at the state and federal law level. So politically they're going to be just as strongly pushing states right to pass pro-choice legislation if they think that's their only viable option, but federal legislation that trumps states rights if they can get away with it. But ideally they'd want it to be a constitutional restriction out of the hands of a state legislature because it's a human right issue for them.
If you want to know the statistics, I think nationally the polls say the majority is in the pro-choice camp, but it varies by state, and I think there's a disparity between public opinion and the opinion of judges appointed to courts, SCOTUS above all, and representatives actually voting on the laws, because of things like gerrymandering and the party system, etc.
Tocky on 7/8/2022 at 05:50
Fuck if that isn't exactly right. And concise too.
mxleader on 7/8/2022 at 06:00
Makes sense.
Nicker on 13/10/2022 at 02:19
You know... we already have a thread for this topic. Why are we bringing specific divisive issues to a thread about the Great Divider?
We could reconvene the reproductive rights discussion from the Trump Dump or we can talk gun control here to mix it up a little.
Tocky on 13/10/2022 at 12:54
Well it is his most divisive issue. Republicans love to push the emotional button of DEMONRATS ARE FOR KILLING BABIES in stirring their base to vote rather than giving any rational thought to the topic. I wish Democrats had an equal issue to galvanize them to vote but EDUCATE YOURSELF ON THE TOPIC AND GIVE RATIONAL THOUGHT TO FETAL DEVELOPEMENT hasn't got the same ring.
Nicker on 13/10/2022 at 13:13
Control Guns, Not Wombs!
Maybe we should make a single Mega Thread with the combined posts of the top ten most replied to topics.
