What overturning Roe v. Wade could mean for birth control access, maternal care - by Dia
Nicker on 26/6/2022 at 00:43
First trimester abortions seemed like a good compromise but for the Theocrats and god-botherers it's all or nothing. That may end up backfiring for them.
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Your statement that abortion is a human right is disputed by many countries around the world, not just the USA.
You just lurrrve to misquote me don't you. I said bodily autonomy, a right you still fully enjoy even as you deny it to others. And when did we start talking about the rest of the world? Was it when you started jingling your keys to distract us?
Starker on 26/6/2022 at 08:54
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Roe v Wade was never Constitutional, because the word abortion does not appear in the Constitution. The court got around that by linking abortion to a "right to privacy" which was always clown world logic. Privacy has nothing to do with crimes. For instance if shooting up heroin isn't legal, it doesn't become legal just because you did it in the privacy of your own home.
Now, I don't know US constitutional law to make such confident statements, but language I do know, and the concept of privacy has quite a wide spectrum that goes way beyond "privacy of your home". Think for example what intrusion of privacy means in case of illegal eavesdropping. In that case, privacy means freedom from unauthorised intrusion, whether it happens in the privacy of your home or in public.
I would imagine that similar logic also applies in case of bodily autonomy -- your body is private, it belongs to you, and any intrusion on it without your consent has to be justified, or else your rights are being violated. And forcing women to carry unwanted pregnancies to term has a lot of well-documented negative consequences for women's health and their lives.
The decision to criminalise certain forms of addiction I would argue is quite counter-productive and short-sighted, as prisons are not generally a good way to treat a public health issue like this. All it ends up doing is giving the people both easy access to drugs (there's nowhere drugs are as easy to get as in a prison) as well as more reasons to continue on the path. Particularly the US war of drugs seems to have done little more than fill their prisons to the point the rate of its prison population is one of the largest on the planet, many times that of other countries.
Dia on 26/6/2022 at 14:42
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Tons of women are anti-abortion and had a hand in voting those politicians into office. Go take it up with those women.
No need. Those brainwashed women will STFU once the men who feed opinions to them are silenced and lose all influence.
Pyrian on 26/6/2022 at 16:18
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The great irony is that Democrat cities will be burned down by Democrats in states where abortion is still legal.
Day 3. Burned down Democrat cities: Still zero. Closest we got was a smoke bomb in Portland.
Starker on 26/6/2022 at 17:27
"Concrete milkshakes" soon to follow.
Jason Moyer on 26/6/2022 at 19:34
I can't wait for all the "free market fixes everything" people who also support this invasion of privacy to start losing their minds over basically every large corporation offering to help their employees receive the care they need. Sort of like how they lose their minds over the free market deciding that cancelling people is profitable.
june gloom on 26/6/2022 at 21:40
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Roe v Wade was never Constitutional, because the word abortion does not appear in the Constitution. The court got around that by linking abortion to a "right to privacy" which was always clown world logic. Privacy has nothing to do with crimes. For instance if shooting up heroin isn't legal, it doesn't become legal just because you did it in the privacy of your own home.
I'm sorry, but the constitution is just toilet paper. It's always constitution this and constitution that with you reactionaries, but insisting that anything that's not in a document written in a time when there were more slaves than cars doesn't count as a real "right" is intellectual dishonesty at best. People are dying and being oppressed
right now and using a 250-year-old piece of paper as an excuse to do nothing about it -- or worse, purposefully keep it going -- is supervillain shit.
I'm just glad SubJeff ain't here, this thread is bad enough as it is.
Starker on 26/6/2022 at 23:14
That was an undercover antifa operative, obviously, trying to make Republicans and cops look bad.
RippedPhreak on 27/6/2022 at 00:46
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I'm sorry, but the constitution is just toilet paper.
If we just chuck the legal framework of our country, we go back to one basic law: Anyone that's bigger and stronger than you (or who has a gun) can do anything he wants to you. Sounds like fun.
I can't see too many women being happy under those circumstances though...not to mention LGBT people.
