Esme on 18/5/2020 at 13:28
I play on Zorinos 15, a ubuntu variant, using wine
tolsen64 on 18/5/2020 at 14:00
Quote Posted by A.Stahl
Why not add Linux? Thief 1-2 works excellent with wine.
What do you use to play fan missions? Do any fan mission loaders work on wine?
Esme on 18/5/2020 at 14:47
Quote Posted by tolsen64
What do you use to play fan missions? Do any fan mission loaders work on wine?
I made a shell file that cd's to wherever Thief is installed then "wine THIEF.EXE" for thief 1/G & "wine THIEF2.EXE" for thief2
I use fmsel to load missions, doesn't seem to have any issues
Daft Mugi on 18/5/2020 at 17:34
I use Wine on macOS. Works great except there is no fog.
FMSel for fan missions.
I plan to switch to Linux in the future.
Meowdori on 19/5/2020 at 02:02
I play on both Windows 8.1 64bit (my main notebook) and Windows XP Professional SP3 32bit on my old Pentium 4 machine, but I could only pick one in the poll...
Also I agree that Linux/MacOS/ReactOS :devil: should be added to the poll as well.
Personally I'm holding onto my heavily manually debloated 8.1 as long as possible and not touching 10 with a 2 metre pole. I'd rather move to Linux in the future if I really needed (or ReactOS in case a miracle happens and it suddenly starts bearing semblance of a useful OS)
FenPhoenix on 19/5/2020 at 02:21
The most annoying problem with Windows 10 is that they inexplicably made the UI run like a 386. Try it: In Windows 7, go to Windows Firewall, click "Inbound rules" or "Outbound rules", and look at the list. Observe the speed at which it draws. Then do the same in Windows 10. Then try dragging the edge of the window. That window, as well as any others using the built-in Win32 UI, are now literal tens of times slower on Windows 10 for some reason. Also, try putting a bunch of icons on the desktop in Windows 7 and moving your mouse around over them. Instant highlighting. Now do the same in Windows 10. Instant highlighting for the first column of icons, and then for all subsequent columns it's inexplicably so sluggish that you won't even see any icons highlighted unless you leave your mouse on them for like a literal half second. Not that that's a functional issue, but it's visually annoying. Also AngelLoader, because it uses WinForms, is now also a colossal slug when you resize the window, so now I look bad too. Microsoft: ultra physics defying wizards who can bend the laws of space and time to such a degree that they can make a Ryzen 3950x run like a 386 THANKS MICROSOFT YOU JERKS
Oh, the poll: I use Windows 10 :)
A.Stahl on 19/5/2020 at 04:52
Quote Posted by tolsen64
What do you use to play fan missions? Do any fan mission loaders work on wine?
Built-in FMSel.
Sometimes there are problems with heavily customized main menus, but I'm not sure if that is wine-specific or Windows have the same problems. Besides that, everything is flawless.
Dahenjo on 19/5/2020 at 14:20
Quote Posted by Dahenjo
Windows 9 and OS/2.
OK, I'll come clean .. I haven't used OS/2 in about 25 yrs and Windows 10 is Windows 9. Currently I'm not running Linux, but recently was on a separate drive (Mint 19.3) with Thief running well but only using FMSel.
I use Windows 10 Home, can easily postpone updates but usually don't and almost never have the bad issues, have none of the sluggishness Fen mentions, and TG & T2 run as well or better at 4K as on any former Windows version at whatever resolution. My only current problem is that AMD's drivers for my RX 5700 video card still aren't right so am using my previous still very decent RX 580 card. The games are under C:\Games on my fastest M.2 system drive, but I keep all FMs & other Thief related files (TFix, etc) on a fast separate SSD, so can quickly backup my games to the D: drive, wipe the M.2 and clean reinstall Windows via a bootable USB stick, then copy the game folders back over intact which run fine right from where I left off without reinstalling them or AngelLoader because all paths & locations are the same.
My belief after running every Windows version since 3.1 is that any version will get screwed up over time, so my approach has long been to keep system and data on separate physical drives and do clean Windows reinstalls to keep things running optimally. And it's so much faster a process now than in the past, I use Chrome so in about 3 minutes after booting a clean install I can install it, sign in and have all my browser bookmarks & settings exactly where I left off. True, I do have to reinstall/reconfigure some apps, utilities, and various system drivers every time, but so much else is preserved online now and to me it's worth doing to avoid all or most of the issues seeming to plague other users.
LostCitizen on 21/5/2020 at 06:54
Quote Posted by Azaran
Windows 7. I'm holding onto it as long as possible
Seconded, I have a 9 year old laptop and I don't plan to change it any time soon.
The Elusive One on 22/5/2020 at 09:25
Quote Posted by FenPhoenix
The most annoying problem with Windows 10 is that they inexplicably made the UI run like a 386. Try it: In Windows 7, go to Windows Firewall, click "Inbound rules" or "Outbound rules", and look at the list. Observe the speed at which it draws. Then do the same in Windows 10. Then try dragging the edge of the window. That window, as well as any others using the built-in Win32 UI, are now literal tens of times slower on Windows 10 for some reason. Also, try putting a bunch of icons on the desktop in Windows 7 and moving your mouse around over them. Instant highlighting. Now do the same in Windows 10. Instant highlighting for the first column of icons, and then for all subsequent columns it's inexplicably so sluggish that you won't even see any icons highlighted unless you leave your mouse on them for like a literal half second. Not that that's a functional issue, but it's visually annoying. Also AngelLoader, because it uses WinForms, is now also a colossal slug when you resize the window, so now I look bad too. Microsoft: ultra physics defying wizards who can bend the laws of space and time to such a degree that they can make a Ryzen 3950x run like a 386 THANKS MICROSOFT YOU JERKS
Oh, the poll: I use Windows 10 :)
Hmm, maybe Windows 10 just doesn't like your machine config.
I have none of the problems you describe on my Windows 10 (1903) machine, everything you describe is smooth and immediate for me, no sluggishness at all.