Hoodwink on 9/10/2001 at 19:37
I wanted it to call me by my name that I gave, instead of JC. I was disappointed. Why even let me come up with a cool name, if I am just going to be called JC?
I have always heard Deus Ex in the phrase "Deus Ex Machina' and translated as "Ghost in the Machine." It is used in various religous discussions to signify the spirit inside the flesh. Hence the term to "give up the ghost." I am not implying that the Greek thing isn't correct, I just think that this is the more common usage today. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
J
henke on 10/10/2001 at 15:59
Doesnt Deus Ex mean;
"A person or thing that appears from seemingly nowhere and provides a solution to an apparently insoluble difficulty."
Thats what I heard. But maybe thats just the meaning, and not the actual words.
Anyway, yeah, Jesus Christ is what I figured it meant also.
darkwanderer on 31/7/2002 at 06:17
JC = jesus christ
you get the same impression in john steinback's "grapes of wrath"
and stepthen kings "Green Mile". both have extraordinary character's whoe initials are JC. makes nothing but sense to me.
Rogue Keeper on 31/7/2002 at 07:31
It's that simple, huh...
D'Juhn Keep on 31/7/2002 at 11:15
There's no point in arbitrarily deciding that something *is* right (hello to you, darkwanderer) as the only people who know for sure and could tell us are the people who decided to call him JC.
darkwanderer on 31/7/2002 at 15:00
i didn't say i was right.
i said it makes nothing but sense to me. isn't funny how the only way one can use the word arbitrary is arbitrarily? :laff:
BadNacho on 31/7/2002 at 20:59
It says inside the cd case what Deus Ex means
Too bad I don't have my CD Case
darkwanderer on 1/8/2002 at 01:13
hehe bad nacho, what you wrote instantly reminded me of:
"I came here to chew gum and kick ass - and i'm all outta gum."
They Live with Rowdy Roddy Piper, does that movie kick some serious buttocks or what?:thumb:
Crazysheep on 1/8/2002 at 11:36
Isn't it an abbreviation of Jack and Jacqueline? Someone I know called Jacqueline, everyone calls her JC.
Daffyd on 2/8/2002 at 16:13
The game is full of religious undertones. One that few people would have picked up is that Walton Simons' username at UNATCO is "DEMIURGE".
The direct translation of this greek word is something like "public craftsman", and in classical times it was used to refer to someone who did manual labour for the public. The term is more often used to mean "semi/demi god" or "creator god", and was a name given to Yahweh/ Jehova by a long-dead religion called Gnosticism. Gnostics believed that the creator of the physical world was a flawed god, jealous, resentful and genocidal, and that the human race is trapped in its world in physical bodies. The religion was one of the early branches of christianity- I'm not sure if it was started by the apostle Paul or not, it may have been Thomas.
Until a while ago I thought this usage was only to do with the fact that, in the intro, Page and Simons talk about becoming gods. Then I read in another post about the homages and easter eggs relating to The Matrix. The Matrix has always seemed to me to be very Gnostic in nature - the whole concept of the human race being slaves in a world that is an illusion.
I don't know, but maybe someone at Ion Storm is a closet Neo-Gnostic ;)
