Schwaa2 on 1/1/2008 at 05:47
Quote Posted by Gillie
Came across this.. Any sound familiar. ;)
After Sex Comments by Sun Sign:
Aries: "Okay, let's do it again!"
Taurus: "I'm hungry--pass the pizza."
Born on the cusp, horny and hungry as hell. Honest too (that's a taurus trait)!
Of course I'm a natural leader(Aries trait), I want sex and so does everyone else, again cursed by the stars.
Quote Posted by Gillie
Came across this.. Any sound familiar. ;)
After Sex Comments by Sun Sign:
Capricorn: "Do you have a business card?"
And a large percentage of my GF's, I want love, they just want to get down to buisness...
OrbWeaver on 1/1/2008 at 09:32
Quote Posted by Schwaa2
Well, religions can't be tested at all. I mean really, how are you gonna test to see if God is real, or if Jesus ever walked the earth, Buddah?... Basically religion is a free card to believe whatever you want as long as someone else will believe it too.
Yep, that's what I said. Unfalsifiable, completely untestable. I personally think that religion is daft, but it doesn't fall into the "obviously and unarguably stupid" category that astrology does (along with other testable superstitions, such as mind reading, homoeopathy etc).
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How is astrology ANY different at all. If you belive it it's true, same as religion.
The difference is that astrology makes specific predictions: namely that there is a correlation between somebody's horoscope and their personality. This can be tested scientifically using the protocol I outlined previously: get a number of people together, get them to anonymously write down their birth dates and places, give the anonymous list to an astrologer who casts a horoscope for each one, and then get each person's spouse/partner/close friend to select from the entire list of anonymised horoscopes which one they think applies to their spouse/partner/friend.
Of course when this is done, the results are no better than random chance, providing evidence that there is actually no correlation between horoscopes and personalities, and the perceived effectiveness of astrology is caused by the personal validation fallacy (Forer effect).
demagogue on 1/1/2008 at 11:10
Quote Posted by Schwaa2
Umm, I think demagouge wins the argument. Who else has posted footnotes? Seriously.
I deny everything!*
The only thing that would make me feel more like a pussy than falling for my uncontrollable desire to footnote crap, though, is to delete it after I did it.
Happy New Year Everybody! :D
* Well, I think it applies more to something like tarot than astrology, anyway, at least not the way they normally do it.
Schwaa2 on 1/1/2008 at 14:51
Quote Posted by OrbWeaver
The difference is that astrology makes specific predictions: namely that there is a correlation between somebody's horoscope and their personality. This can be tested scientifically using the protocol I outlined previously: get a number of people together, get them to anonymously write down their birth dates and places, give the anonymous list to an astrologer who casts a horoscope for each one, and then get each person's spouse/partner/close friend to select from the entire list of anonymised horoscopes which one they think applies to their spouse/partner/friend.
Of course when this is done, the results are no better than random chance, providing evidence that there is actually no correlation between horoscopes and personalities, and the perceived effectiveness of astrology is caused by the personal validation fallacy (Forer effect).
I get your point. But using human testimony as a basis for actual proof is worthless. Everyone sees themselves in their own light, everyone else sees other people according to how they think and believe.
I bet I could ask all my family members to write a small summary that defines me as best they could and I'd get a different answer from everyone, of course there'd be similarities (he likes art, he likes food...). Still, that doesn't scientifically prove anything, it would just prove whether or not my 'sign' correlated with what other people think of me.
paloalto90 on 1/1/2008 at 15:04
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Fair enough. It's just another drop in the ocean of reasons why the whole thing is a crock.
I think it is funny that a guy with a nickname Orbweaver is debunking astrology,usually said by people who give a cursory look at debunking literature without an in depth study of it.Yeah newspaper astrology.
There are quite a few who have set out to debunk it only who now give it credence.
A common fallacy of course is that a planet in the part of the sky makes you do stuff or effects you in some way.
take a "0" divide it you get yin,yang
divide it again ,four bodies of man
four signs:
earth ,air ,fire ,water standing for physical,mental,memory and emotion.
These come in 3 states initiating,sustaining,transforming.
3 states x 4 houises gives you 12 archetypical mental states of man.
example:aries,initiating fire thrust into matter.Mars
Leo sustained fire coalescing around ego.Sun
Sagitarius:transforming fire through new experience.Jupiter
Carl Jung has used it as well in talking about the human psyche.
Beileving in reincarnation as I do,I bieleve the planets in their signs and where they are positioned is a snapshot of how you have used your free will in the past not that a planet makes you do anything.
JonesCrusher on 1/1/2008 at 15:07
I like the chinese zodiac bit too...
Scorpio and Tiger....oooh err....watch it!
Beautiful, feisty ,takes no prisoners,every penny counts so I can spend it on new weapons....or shoes? whichever I fancy....guess thats why I love Thief soooo much!
:angel:
Gray on 2/1/2008 at 00:19
Quote Posted by Schwaa2
So you are one of the atheists who believes they should also have 'christmas rights'? This puzzles me, if you are athiest you believe in NO God correct? (Not aimed at Gray mind you, just pesky athiests)
"Christmas rights"? What, exactly, is that? As a decidedly non-christian (believing not in just the one god, but not believing in gods in general), I just take the advantage of _A_ holiday (any holiday, popular with the society I currently live in) to visit my family. I don't celebrate the birth of Jesus, nor do I celebrate God's given obligation to buy plenty of shiny crap to people who don't need it.
I use the term "pesky" in the strict sarcastic sense, since I tend to flag atheism in every other discussion where it comes up, and eventually people tend to get sick of it and me. If the issue ever comes up, I'm quick to state my stance before more confusion is created.
Matthew on 9/1/2008 at 17:21
I'm a Virgo as well, but having read that those born in the Year of the Sheep are 'fine artists in their lovemaking', I am prepared to endorse all astrology.
Shayde on 10/1/2008 at 06:36
Leo/Rooster.
So then am I a pussy or a cock? :confused:
jtr7 on 10/1/2008 at 07:09
Hermaphrodite.
