Overlord Nexus on 2/9/2006 at 02:21
The mechanists were trying to destroy plants and other living things, instead of using it to build stuff. I don't think the pagans would see that as an improvement.
Goldmoon Dawn on 2/9/2006 at 02:50
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As for charisma, Karras would have to have it to gain that many followers to his religion. Also, haven't you people ever noticed that the mechanists generally have a more intelligent set of grammar and cite longer verses of scripture?
Karras never actually started or created any type of religion. He used his mental abilities to sway those from an already well established religion. The Hammers who converted to Mechanist gained some of the wisdom and insight from Karras, making them to appear smarter.
SithLord2001 on 2/9/2006 at 03:09
Quote Posted by Overlord Nexus
The mechanists were trying to destroy plants and other living things, instead of using it to build stuff. I don't think the pagans would see that as an improvement.
As is evidenced by Viktoria going in with Garret during the last mission of T2, and attempting to destroy as much shit as she could.
june gloom on 2/9/2006 at 03:42
mechanism is basically the same as hammerism at its root, if you don't count karras' rewrite of the scriptures. where mechanism differs is that they're more willing to consider technological advances- and give them to the world. the hammers have the arrogant idea that the world isn't ready for this or that. the hammers, once a bastion of progress, are now a bunch of old men who don't like change. the mechanists are also a far more open organization- they include women, and minorities (ever notice the random black guy walking around?) and that's just for starters. there's none of this really old fasioned "initiation" that the hammers do (a whole year of silence, etc.) if you want to join the mechanists. there probably IS some initiation, but it wouldn't be as extreme or draconian. hammerites are willing to use nature to their own ends, for example as building materials. they turn it into a metaphor for spirituality. they emphasise structural soundness both physical and spiritual. mechanists prefer to use a machine analogy, where everyone is a gear or a cog and has to follow their given path, or else the whole machine stops.
boy, i'm long-winded today. :erm:
themetalian on 3/9/2006 at 20:17
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Yep, I was really scared. He seemed quite a sinister person to me, and still seems.
Duuuuude...... Seriously! :p
jtr7 on 3/9/2006 at 20:30
Re-reading Cavador's journal, he doesn't agree with Karras on some things. Cavador is more of a scientist, excited about unearthing discoveries. Karras wants the Lost City "cleansed" of all life. Cavador doesn't know why Karras insists on it, and disobeys the order to use the rust-gas for that purpose.
Later, the Pagans probably simply reasoned with Cavador, and he perceived enough of the overall threat to turn his back on Karras. "Spilling one's guts" usually means the person tells all, brings out all he/she has within.
RavynousHunter on 3/9/2006 at 23:41
yeah, Cavvy always struck me as a more sensible type than Karras, or at least as sensible as a Hammer could be. i made a lot of chars using the name "Cavador" or "Brother Cavador", i even have a Guild Wars char named "Brother Cavador". :cheeky: Hammer tank, what else would he be? :rolleyes: i also have a SV in Phantom Crash called "Cavador". :ebil:
Gingerbread Man on 4/9/2006 at 03:20
"cavador" literally means "one who digs"
Actually, truth be told I'd guess it's one of those horrible deponent verbs along the lines of "hortor" and "sequor" and probably literally translates to "I dig"
From the same root as we derive "excavation" and "cavity" and such.
RavynousHunter on 4/9/2006 at 05:18
which is damn funny, cuz i KNOW Latin (more or less). :eek:
Gingerbread Man on 4/9/2006 at 05:22
LOL :thumb: :joke:
