Starrfall on 16/7/2009 at 20:28
does ny not have equitable remedies or something
(edit: or rather, does the nybar not test remedies)
ercles on 16/7/2009 at 22:57
Quote Posted by Stitch
And just like Twitter, this thread is as good as or as bad as the contributions people are making. Nobody gives a shit if you just ate a bagel, but if you're eating a bagel as comfort food while watching city lights die one by one as dawn approaches, I'm there.
This thread is an opportunity to peek into the lives of the people who make up this board.
What I'm currently doing: justifying a thread's existence to those who lack the imagination or perspective to recognize it for themselves.
I'd actually argue that twitter (and other associated phenomena) by and large certainly lack in imagination and perspective. Undoubtedly there are some impressive and imaginative posts out there, but as a format, they tend to encourage a stream of largely valueless short posts updating people on your day-to-day activities.
I'm just as interested as anyone else in gaining insight into the people behind the posts on ttlg, but at the same time I certainly don't want to read another "how do I kiss the girl/what should I do with my life" thread. I much prefer reading about the accomplishments of those at ttlg who get work published or start bands, or the background behind fett's religious views. Other threads based around rednecks and border security in the US, or political conflicts within Europe or the Middle East have been similarly insightful for me.
Basically what I am trying to say (poorly, no doubt) is that twitter-esque pages aren't the only domain for placing posts in context and finding out more about each other. But they certainly can encourage, simply by virtue of their format, bland and simplistic posts that achieve neither of the above. Like most of the internet,
I'm not trying to say that ttlg is being overrun by idiots, but I do think that to describe disliking these posts as lacking in imagination or perspective is pretty unfair.
Kolya on 17/7/2009 at 07:41
You know what? These meta-discussions over new technologies like Twitter or the telephone just make everyone fighting it look terribly neophobic and obsolete, in retrospect. Get over it already. Your unborn children are laughing at you.
Starrfall on 17/7/2009 at 13:57
Kolya probably defended betamax tapes too.
Not all new technology is worthy of reverence. Twitter is mostly a waste of time, with the exception of Shaq's twitter. And I would build a laser beam on the moon to wipe twitter off the face of the earth in like two seconds if it meant politicians never could use it again.
FACEBOK 4 LYF
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http://twitter.com/THE_REAL_SHAQ) shaq)
Stitch on 17/7/2009 at 16:00
Quote Posted by ercles
I'd actually argue that twitter (and other associated phenomena) by and large certainly lack in imagination and perspective. Undoubtedly there are some impressive and imaginative posts out there, but as a format, they tend to encourage a stream of largely valueless short posts updating people on your day-to-day activities.
They encourage nothing, Twitter is just a means of microblogging. People can Twitter about the apple they just ate or they can Twitter sharp insights or compressed jokes or succinct poetry. And even if someone just posts life updates--"nervous abut the job interview tomorrow/going to bed early/wish me luck!/okay I think I need a drink"--there is a certain cumulative perspective you gain on the day in/day out lives of the people important to you.
Quote Posted by ercles
I'm just as interested as anyone else in gaining insight into the people behind the posts on ttlg, but at the same time I certainly don't want to read another "how do I kiss the girl/what should I do with my life" thread. I much prefer reading about the accomplishments of those at ttlg who get work published or start bands, or the background behind fett's religious views.
Fair enough, although I think you are losing sight of the fact that some of TTLG's best threads have developed from "how do I kiss the girl/what should I do with my life" threads. At any rate, is shouting down the threads you don't approve of constructive in any way?
Renzatic on 17/7/2009 at 16:00
Quote Posted by Kolya
You know what? These meta-discussions over new technologies like Twitter or the telephone just make everyone fighting it look terribly neophobic and obsolete, in retrospect. Get over it already. Your unborn children are laughing at you.
The future of communication will be a bunch of people with not much to say talking at each other in short factoid-like sentences? This is basically what you're defending here:
Renzatic 7/17/09 7:50 AM: I watched the sun rise today. Eating a sandwich at the moment. More later
-@Renzatic 7/17/09 8:25 AM: I LOVE SANDWICHES. WAS IT HAM? ^ ^
Renzatic 7/17/09 8:36 AM: Sandwich was good
-@Renzatic 7/17/09 8:41 AM: I AM SO HAPPY FOR YOU
Renzatic 7/17/09 8:53 AM: I just threw up in my mouth. INDIGESTION SUCKS!
-@Renzatic 7/17/09 8:50 AM: AWWWW! :(
Hell, at least you can reciprocate on the spot while talking on the phone. I already had a good idea of this, but I'm now even more sure my unborn children are gonna be idiots, and Twitter will at least be partially to blame. If we don't stop it now, the future of personal conversation will be akin to sitting a bunch of Aspergers kids in a small room and telling them to talk amongst themselves. Just a bunch of very long awkward pauses, short declarative responses without any prose or wit, and much shuffling of feet thereafter.
Edit: This post made me want to eat a ham sandwich. I went downstairs and whipped me one up immediately after hitting the submit button. It's really good.
AR Master on 17/7/2009 at 16:25
WHATEVER IT TAKES
Kolya on 17/7/2009 at 18:06
Quote Posted by Starrfall
Not all new technology is worthy of reverence. Twitter is mostly a waste of time[...]
A waste of time that just helped to organise an uprising for freedom and democracy in Iran. To the point that the American government asked Twitter to hold off their maintenance works.
And if millions of people use it you can roll your eyes as much as you like, it's still significant.
If I were to take a look at internet forums in general, wouldn't I come to the conclusion that they're mostly a waste of time, where lil idiots spout insults at each other? Does that make this forum worse a laser beam as well? (rhetorical question!)
Starrfall on 17/7/2009 at 18:36
See the thing about TWITTER SAVED IRAN is that facebook did it better and continues to do it better so I don't find that compelling in the slightest.
Just because it's shiny new technology doesn't mean everyone has to slobber all over its metaphorical cock.
If forums limited you to so few characters I'd probably think they were stupid too. Pay careful attention though: this is not the same as saying they are insignificant. It's also not the same as saying therefore it should not exist (except to the extent politicians use it).
I also noticed that you have failed to acknowledge the glory of shaq's twitter so clearly you're in the wrong here.
Stitch on 17/7/2009 at 19:54
Quote Posted by Starrfall
See the thing about TWITTER SAVED IRAN is that facebook did it better and continues to do it better so I don't find that compelling in the slightest.
I don't really know where you're going with this line of argument. Twitter and Facebook were used to mass-communicate information in Iran, focusing on one while disregarding the other seems to rather miss the point (especially when both are typically dismissed as worthless by the grumpy old man contingent).
Agreed on the brilliance of Shaq's Twitter, however.
