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Moghedian on 20/8/2006 at 18:53

Quote Posted by Convict

I don't know much about drugs but what I've heard is that heroin dealers start people off on a little bit (very cheap amount) of heroin and gradually the users go up dosages until they are strongly addicted to it. Have other people heard the same?

That happened to a guy I went to middle school with. He became a junkie at 14 :nono:

I myself won't touch the stuff, or any other drugs. I don't even like taking the stuff that is prescribed by a doctor, unless it is antibiotics. Actually, I'm not fond of those, either because they make me sleepy :bored:

xxcoy on 20/8/2006 at 19:41

Friend of mine always said "you can control yourself" and that he could stop taking drugs whenever he wanted. He only never wanted... :rolleyes:
Have to say, he never took heroin or anything like that- hash only.
Briefly speaking, he got paranoid.

The problem is, some substances in those drugs can block some cerebral receptors permanently. They can make you physically sick in your brain. Some clinical tests from australia made clear that it doesn't make a difference if you take them for the first time or if you are used to them - if this happens, there is no easy way back. You won't be able to make a difference between the real world and your dreams anymore.

He was caught in a neverending nightmare for nearly a year. Nobody realized, what was going on with him - he just got strange - didn't always recognize me anymore or suddenly got aggressive for nothing. And he was losing weight until he looked like he was starving.
Then suddenly he had a massive breakdown and ended up in psychiatry. Lots of people don't even know about this kind of by-effects when taking drugs - all they are afraid of is getting adicted. But you do not need to be adicted to get this kind of paranoia.

He's getting better now, living on his own again. He was strong enough to stop taking drugs and above all, realize, what had happened to him. Many of those patients never do and get stuck in their dream-world, thinking that they're "elected" and that they're having "visions" instead of hallucinations. They do not want to return.

He tells me, he's still having hallucinations every day, but he knows they aren't real. When we went out for a drink a couple of months ago, he told me in his eyes our town was just now burning down.
He has to take lots of "drugs" today too. He couldn't live without them. He cannot work for longer than six hours. He suffers from a heavy headake constantly.

He was a fellow student of mine, going to be a dentist as I am now - had to go only six month more until being finished with his studies when he broke down. Today, he's unemployed and living on public assistance. He hates it.

It's all I have to tell about taking drugs - and taking it easy.

Ko0K on 20/8/2006 at 20:06

Brain cells can be damaged when you take a baseball to the head, get drunk, get in a car accident, etc. One way to look at disrupted connections between neurons is that the brain has suffered irrecoverable damage, yet another way to look at them is that they made new connections. One of the biggest problems I have with people who have anti-drug attitudes is that they set out with the notion that drugs are bad even before they build their supporting arguments. Put your blinders on, if you will, but there are perfectly normal members of the society who've lived through the 60's and 70's in America. Are we really going to come out and say that our brothers and mothers are brain-damaged people? I don't know about anyone else, but I tend to listen to people who have actual personal experiences more than I listen to people who saw what happened to their friends.

xxcoy on 20/8/2006 at 20:10

I was sure of getting this kind of reaction, it's allright. You have to decide for yourself- but be careful speaking of blinders. ;)

Ko0K on 20/8/2006 at 20:39

Quote Posted by xxcoy

You have to decide for yourself- but be careful speaking of blinders. ;)

Honestly I can't disagree with that. It goes without saying that personal experiences beyond one's own can only be approximated at best. Just to be clear, I didn't actually encourage the use of drugs. I just have an issue with people who present their views and label the others naive and narrow-minded, when they themselves know nothing of the counter-views in depth first. By the way, that is more of an extended response to Raven's comments than anything else, really. As far as I can tell, you simply stated your observation of your friend's experience, and I can take it as what it is without attacking it.

xxcoy on 20/8/2006 at 20:42

Quote Posted by Ko0K

I just have an issue with people who present their views and label the others naive and narrow-minded, when they themselves know nothing of the counter-views in depth first.

I do know - but I do not want to speak about that. ;)
My friend's destiny was kind of a warning to me.

All I want to say by telling his story is, don't take it to easy. It is dangerous after all. You have to decide for yourself, if you think, it is worth that risk.

Ko0K on 20/8/2006 at 20:48

See my revised post above. :D

xxcoy on 20/8/2006 at 20:55

(Hm, observation... experience would be more fitting. He's one of my closest friends. Was a hard time ;))

SD on 20/8/2006 at 21:02

I had a close friend who nearly died of an allergic reaction to a peanut.

From that day on, I vowed to become an INTERNET WARRIOR waging war against the evils of peanuts, so that nobody would ever be tempted to consume this evil food again.

Just say no to peanuts kids.

xxcoy on 20/8/2006 at 21:07

Quote Posted by Strontium Dog

From that day on, I vowed to become an INTERNET WARRIOR waging war against the evils of peanuts, so that nobody would ever be tempted to consume this evil food again.

Good for you, you'll not have to deal with the internet-pro-drugs-mafia. XD

M&Ms, anybody?