SubJeff on 28/12/2009 at 23:19
Its a spectrum mang, you just have to find the part that suits you.
Quote Posted by Rug Burn Junky
There's really no substitute for a raging bender sometimes.
Oh hell no there isn't.
If this works out I doubt that it will ever take over from alcohol althogether, just be an option. The plus is it means you can get into a legal mind altered state that doesn't do the damage that alcohol does. And if you decide to get drunk anyway you could, though I'm not too sure about mixing, especially if it is a benzo they settle on because benzos and booze = badtimes.
As SD says, there is pot, but it seems to have other long term effects that whilst clearly nebulous (oh my, look what I did there, that's your new indie band name right there fellas) and difficult to quantify are nevertheless a reality. But lets not go into the "its not a war on drugs, its a war on personal freedom" road, eh?
Whilst we're on this - who else sometimes finds a raging hangover a little bit... cathartic? I like to plan for a stinker, stock up on good stuff, clear the diary, invite the firm over and accept that Day 2 will be a wipeout. And I can heartily recommend paintball (or if you're a real freak, full contact grappling practice) with a raging hangover. There is something Godly about the extra pain and adrenaline it gives you.
CCCToad on 28/12/2009 at 23:35
Quote Posted by Rug Burn Junky
That, and there's really no substitute for quality alcohol. I'm not going to be drinking a single malt scotch synthesized from this stuff, and I have to think that trying to mix a really good drink out of this stuff would be like baking with Splenda. Yeah, sure, it may taste like a reasonable substitute, but sometimes you just really want a real cupcake.
Thats actually a good analogy, This stuff will probably be to real alcohol as aspartame is to sugar.
I can't really say I don't have any interest, as I fall into that category of people who drink but never drink enough to get buzzed. Never had more than a serving at a time. Since I drink only for taste(and to a lesser degree the health benefits associated with a small amount of alcohol usage), this stuff has no appeal to me. I'd lose out on the primary reason I have the odd drink without getting any benefit because I don't get drunk, so therefore I don't get hungover.
@SE: there's plenty of ways to get high without damaging your brain. If you aren't familiar with it, do a bit of research into Salvia. This is a bit of an aside, but when I had to research it I mentioned it to my roommate at the time, who said that when he tried he saw a vision of "The Universe falling apart".
Namdrol on 29/12/2009 at 01:00
Quote Posted by CCCToad
Never had more than a serving at a time.
What, never? Missing out. :tsktsk:
Quote Posted by CCCToad
If you aren't familiar with it, do a bit of research into Salvia.
Oh not nice. Not a party drug, not a social time AT ALL.
Yea you want to buy the straight chopped up plant ok, strongish, bit janglier than weed, sends you in a bit of a deeper sleep a few hrs later.
But that x30 shit they sell?
Tread gently.
It has as much to do with booze and dope as a fucking meth hit.
(But in a very different way.)
Thief13x on 29/12/2009 at 01:02
Ha, this is almost as bad as lyposuction. Dealing with the effect rather than the cause
That said the best way to get hammered and avoid a hangover is to chugchug that water while the night is young:cool:
fett on 29/12/2009 at 01:40
Quote Posted by Starrfall
I for one am outraged that people will be able to consume alcohol without negative effects whatever happened to morality :mad:
Next they'll be wanting to stick it in each other's poopers. Kids these days...
TTK12G3 on 29/12/2009 at 02:10
Quote Posted by Martin Karne
Nope that's getting wasted not drunk.
I have to agree.
nicked on 29/12/2009 at 08:14
Quote Posted by CCCToad
do a bit of research into Salvia. This is a bit of an aside, but when I had to research it I mentioned it to my roommate at the time, who said that when he tried he saw a vision of "The Universe falling apart".
A friend of mine was telling me about this - he got some Salvia because it supposedly gave you a "mellow high". Took a bit - nothing happened. So he did all the rest of it in one go. He said the only way he could describe it was that he suddenly had no concept of time or space. He didn't know who he was, or even have any concept of "who", no sense of self at all.
After what seemed like an age, he kinda realised he was a human being, and began slowly piecing together his existence from that. After what felt like hours he had put his mind back together like a jigsaw, regained his sense of time and space and self and opened his eyes. He thought he must have been out of it for hours, days even; turns out he had just been staring blankly into space for a few seconds, if that.
He told it better than I could obviously; it was the greatest mad trip story I've ever heard.
PigLick on 29/12/2009 at 09:21
your friends need to do more drugs
Fingernail on 29/12/2009 at 09:57
Drunk mates story time!
My current flatmate told me of how, when a bit younger, he got totally wasted (he was living in Glasgow at the time, he is Scottish also which doesn't help), and someone bet him £200 that he wouldn't fly to Amsterdam, so he went to a cash machine, got out a few hundred quid, went to the airport and boarded a plane there, all on his own.
Ended up high on the streets of the red light district, got his wallet stolen, no idea what the fuck is going on, gets taken in by the police, has to make what I imagine was a very confusing phonecall back home, passes out, wakes up later in a hotel room where his mum has flown out to rescue him.
Sounds like a proper adventure. These days he mostly ends up all alone, trying to get into a casino when he gets pissed. And then walking an hour to get home.
SubJeff on 29/12/2009 at 10:16
Sounds like his main problem is he has no grasp of maths.
nicked - that doesn't sound like a very, err, social drug tbh. In fact it sounds a hell of a lot like DMT, both terrifying and wonderful. I wonder if people who use this stuff often (any psychoactive thing that destroys the sense of self, ego, human-ness, etc) have a different experience of the "real" world by dint of having escaped it in such a profound way. Nah, they probably laugh about it and tell people how cuuuurazy and kewl it was.
