Angel Dust on 28/7/2008 at 00:45
I actually loved all the written material, particularly Hollis' biography, and found it all essential to my enjoyment of 'Watchmen'.
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nd come on, if you can't tell us through the medium you're using perhaps you're not giving it enough thought)
I would strongly disagree. Sure you could have flashback sequences to tell this stuff but by having it presented in the form of an excerpt from a faux autobiography it makes the world seem that much more complete. Hollis' biography was the point where I got really immersed in the world of 'Watchmen' as it felt like this was an authentic biography from the real world.
Of course you disagree and that's fine but I really don't think Moore and Gibbons did it that way simply because they couldn't be arsed thinking of doing it another way. In fact it's obvious they actually put a lot of thought into the purely written passages since they vary a lot from biographies to interviews to business proposals and are all quite believable as examples of those forms.
The trailer looks promising although I'm still not holding my breath that Snyder can deliver on the drama front.
SubJeff on 28/7/2008 at 12:46
The music in the trailer is wonderful. I've not read this either but I'm intrigued by the idea. Hmmmm. Where to pick it up now. Let me see...
Vivian on 28/7/2008 at 14:52
Its one of those interminable smashing pumpkins b-sides isn't it? Some alt version of a song they did for a terrible Batman film. God, the more I listen to Billy Corgans voice the more I wonder why the hell I ever used to like them.
Scots Taffer on 28/7/2008 at 22:11
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The music in the trailer is wonderful. I've not read this either but I'm intrigued by the idea. Hmmmm. Where to pick it up now. Let me see...
The Beginning is the End is the Beginning as opposed to the End is the Beginning is the End written for Batman & Robin.
sergeantgiggles on 28/7/2008 at 22:55
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Hollis' biography was the point where I got really immersed in the world of 'Watchmen' as it felt like this was an authentic biography from the real world.
It's like playing Deus Ex.
Angel Dust on 29/7/2008 at 00:24
Exactly, which is why I thought Scots response was odd. Deus Ex and SS2 use methods for delivering story which are not necessarily using the gaming medium to the fullest.
Scots Taffer on 29/7/2008 at 00:33
I didn't read all the fucking logs in Deus Ex either. Sloppy design imo.
At least in SS2 you could listen to them.
Pyrian on 29/7/2008 at 00:36
Given that the standard alternative is to not deliver story at all... :p
Scots Taffer on 29/7/2008 at 00:48
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Given that the standard alternative is to
not deliver story at all... :p
Please tell me you're not advocating that games are not capable of telling stories without the use of holocubes stuffed with tiny text?
Angel Dust on 29/7/2008 at 00:50
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I didn't read all the fucking logs in Deus Ex either. Sloppy design imo.
As far as Deus Ex is concerned I think the problem was more sloppy writing than design with many of those logs, newspaper articles etc. There was definitely too much of it too but that doesn't mean there shouldn't be any at all. Reading a well written newspaper article in a game about an event puts you in a different space than does simply having a cutscene of the same event. Both approaches have their advantages, and you shouldn't depend on either one, it all depends of the effect you want the player to experience. Likewise having Hollis' background filled out with a faux autobiography allows Moore to tell the story in a different way than flashbacks etc could. A superior way to tell the story? I think so and you don't but that isn't my point. My point is Moore wanted to effect the audience in a different way than presenting it normally would and went to the effort of writing, what I thought, was a very authentic feeling biography excerpt.
