Turtle on 24/2/2009 at 05:18
Well, thank god we know it's no good.
Now, I can save myself 10 bucks.
Now, tell me whether I should go see the next Batman movie.
Fringe on 24/2/2009 at 05:24
No.
Third one always sucks.
doctorfrog on 24/2/2009 at 08:36
Quote Posted by Muzman
That dialogue is fairly strange in the book as well, from memory (in the lead up Drieberg even says "you know sometimes it's really hard to be your friend.' Compounding the afterschool-special-ness of the thing). It always stuck with me 'cause it seems so odd that Rorschach would even say that; is he realising he needs Dan and manipulating him or is he genuinely being friendly? Either of those seems against his character at that point, but he wasn't always that nutcase.
Probably thinking about it too much. Not everything Moore does is perfect (I'll be interested to see how they handle that 'cell door fight' in the prison. That bit does not make a lick of sense).
I'm working on memory here, but the scene was a bit odd indeed. I see it as an alternate take on two classic-era superheroes, bonded by a one-dimensional hatred of crime and being Best Friends Forever, or at least Firm Allies in the Fight Against Crime. Instead, we see an overweight rich kid playing Batman and a legitimate psychopath with the same goals but different values trying to get along so they can work together. It's awkward.
Rorschach seemed to hold onto Dreiberg's hand a bit too long, which I saw as either a subtle hint of homosexual love mixed with genuine brotherly love on Rorschach's part, simple brotherly love by itself, which still makes Dreiberg uncomfortable, or just a sign that Rorschach has no damn idea how to communicate normally with people.
It's a bit like the exchange between Bassanio and Antonio early on in Merchant of Venice:
BASSANIO
130 ...To you, Antonio,
131 I owe the most, in money and in love,
132 And from your love I have a warranty
133 To unburden all my plots and purposes
134 How to get clear of all the debts I owe.
ANTONIO
135 I pray you, good Bassanio, let me know it;
136 And if it stand, as you yourself still do,
137 Within the eye of honor, be assured,
138 My purse, my person, my extremest means,
139 Lie all unlock'd to your occasions.
A little uncomfortable, isn't it? These guys are prancing about verbally about love and everything in a manner that's normal for a Shakespearean play, but Antonio takes it just that li'l step further, like holding onto a dude's hand a bit too long in a handshake.
Now, I read this thing for a class in college, and reading too much into things was term paper currency back then, so take with a grain of salt.
I have nothing to say about the scene in the movie, except that maybe it was awkwardly filmed on purpose to underscore the awkwardness of the dialog? (haha, no.) I also really hate Rorschach's voice in the movie. It's all damn wrong.
june gloom on 24/2/2009 at 17:21
I am going to read every Rorschacht line like that now.
Aerothorn on 24/2/2009 at 18:05
Oh, god. Adrian and Rorshach are voiced HORRIBLY.
Adrian - the world's most lovable man - sounds like a Nazi war criminal, and Rorschach...well, he sounds like he's trying too hard. He is supposed to be monotone; there is no effort to his words. Instead it sounds like the actor is trying to be "monotone" by adding extreme intonation to every word. It doesn't work.
suliman on 24/2/2009 at 18:45
Quote Posted by Fringe
No.
Third one always sucks.
THE LAST CRUSADE
Fringe on 24/2/2009 at 19:32
Third comic book movie.
Queue on 24/2/2009 at 23:11
No, no--it's "Whaaa".
