van HellSing on 12/3/2008 at 12:57
I seriously hope there's a sequel about the Illuminati and Majestic 12 and it's called "Schadenfreude".
DaBeast on 13/3/2008 at 19:57
Quote Posted by d0om
* Thermite is alumninum + iron oxide. Planes are made of aluminium. Surprise?
* A crashed plane FULL OF FUEL will not leave very much debris at all. Normal planes ditch their fuel before they crash for saftey.
Fair points. And what of the plane at the pentagon?
I was talking to another ttlger about this in IRC. Well specifically I was asking questions and he was doing the "oh god please stop embarrassing yourself by thinking this way" as illustrated in that comic you linked.
The questions I asked were along the lines of that income tax thing and would and air plane leave wreckage at the pentagon. I managed to get him to comment on the tax thing but as for the rest, it seems some people refuse to even entertain the idea that there could be something to all this conspiracy stuff.
Like I said to him and I'll say now, I'm not some mong who has to cling to conspiracy theories just... because I need to, but I will entertain the idea until the disputed facts are answered to my satisfaction.
I suppose in a way it comes down to faith. Like <USERNAME> said in his way. I think people who have faith in what they are told will not question it, why should they? Then people like me who question everything, refuse to believe what they are told unless its from a credible source and even then its a pinch of salt kind of deal.
There's that site that goes around disproving urban legends, they said 9/11 conspiracies are wrong, their experts said so. Yet another bunch of supposed experts say something isn't right with the 9/11 report. I remember the loose change mongs were on a tv show with them and the disprovers were all men, presented their side clearly and the loose change "kids" acted like a bunch of angry stoners. Who would you believe?
ultimately, the world is full of shit and none of you exist, some guy said so, it must be true.
Mingan on 13/3/2008 at 23:21
What of the plane at the Pentagon? We have footage from security cameras of a plane crashing into it, a plane-sized, fuselage-shaped hole in it after that; then, after dousing the fire, lots of plane parts, mostly engine parts, because the titanium alloy is made to resist such temperatures(you know, engines, burning fuel, etc). WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE PENTAGON?
Also consider this; if it was fake, what have they done do the hundreds of people inside the plane?
AxTng1 on 14/3/2008 at 03:20
I've seen so fnord many proofs of possible 3rd-party involvement fnord in 9/11 that I just don't fnord care anymore one way or the other. MAYBE THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT!
fnord
<Username> on 14/3/2008 at 13:03
Quote Posted by Mingan
What of the plane at the Pentagon? We have footage from security cameras of a plane crashing into it
Footage has been released? Where? The only available video I could find is (
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5658198482624505213) this.
AR Master on 14/3/2008 at 13:18
Between 9/11, JFK and the moon landing, you'd think the US government would wise up and stop halfassing things such that the big wheel down at the Idaho pork factory is able to see right through their clever little lies
d0om on 14/3/2008 at 14:03
The REAL 9/11 conspiracy: It didn't happen at all. The twin towers are still there.
Have YOU been to New York since then to see for yourself?
Mingan on 14/3/2008 at 17:29
Well, that's footage, innit? It's obviously time-lapsed, we don't have real-time, so? I remember seeing at least another video, which clearly was showing the plane crashing into the building. Is it on the net? I don't know, neither care.
Thing is, there were plane parts everywhere, possibly human remains(bones, jewelry, etc). Also air controllers must have spotted a plane going straight into a no-flight zone.
Also consider the government's various spook agencies apparent inability to even hide embarrassing stuff, like Abu Ghraib, GitMo, etc.
