Scots Taffer on 3/7/2008 at 02:40
The Incredibles is still my favourite Super Hero movie of all time, as well as being my number 1 Pixar movie. :)
Aja on 3/7/2008 at 18:03
I never saw The Incredibles, but Finding Nemo was my favourite Pixar film (and, barring The Lion King, my favourite animated film) until I saw Wall-E yesterday.
Pixar's animation skills are perfect and its art and sound design are both cozy and awe-inspiring (not to mention aesthetically brilliant). Never have I been so thoroughly engrossed in the sensual aspects of animation, but to focus on only them would be doing a terrible disservice to Pixar's unmatched ability to create emotionally involving characters and scenarios. Sure, Wall-E is not especially subtle (it is still a kid's movie), but it remains leagues above most live-action work I've seen in the past few years, simply because it engages on nearly every level.
Also, Pixar is the only currently-operating animation studio who actually knows how to tell a joke.
Hier on 4/7/2008 at 13:59
Exactly. Wall-E very definitely has a social/political message (secondary to the main story, but it's still there loud and clear). And it's an absolutely correct message.
Sci-fi is packed full of messages like this, but this might be the first time some of these idiots have encountered it, and they're afraid their precious fat snowflakes will grow up hearing messages that pollution, lethargy, and mass consumerism might possibly be bad.
Aerothorn on 4/7/2008 at 15:04
Is this considerably different from previous Pixar films?
I stopped watching their stuff after Finding Nemo - everyone went crazy for it and I didn't think it was BAD per say, but I found it completely unengaging. Would someone who doesn't care for Finding Nemo have any chance of liking this?
Eshaktaar on 4/7/2008 at 15:41
I can't talk for Wall-E, as I haven't seen it, but I felt the same way about Finding Nemo. IMO it's one of Pixar's weaker movies. But what on earth made you assume that any following movie would be a similar letdown? Go watch The Incredibles now. No, NOW!
Aja on 4/7/2008 at 17:21
Quote Posted by Aerothorn
Is this considerably different from previous Pixar films?
I stopped watching their stuff after Finding Nemo - everyone went crazy for it and I didn't think it was BAD per say, but I found it completely unengaging. Would someone who doesn't care for Finding Nemo have any chance of liking this?
Possibly, since Wall-E relies very little (if at all) on pop culture reference and celebrity voiceover. It feels more self-contained than Finding Nemo.
Scots Taffer on 5/7/2008 at 04:12
I don't think any of the Pixar movies ever fall into pop culture referencing... that's Dreamworks stuff for sure.
Aja on 5/7/2008 at 04:43
Well, just the fact that they use someone like Ellen Degeneres to voice a fish is something of a pop culture reference in itself. I've always found celebrity voice actors to be somewhat distracting, especially when actors exist (like pretty much the entire cast of The Simpsons) who can actually lend appropriate voices to their characters.
Fortunately, Wall-E doesn't have this problem, as there's very little dialogue to begin with. Of course John Ratzenberger's still in it, but I wouldn't have it any other way.
doctorfrog on 5/7/2008 at 17:02
I also found Finding Nemo pretty bland and pat. Actually, I haven't really liked any Pixar movies yet, though Monsters Inc was a fantastic movie for kids, and I haven't seen the Incredibles yet. The studio seems like Just Another Disney Property. However...
Initially I panned Wall-E based on the billboards I've seen on the way to work. A cutesy robot, probably on some stupid cute quest. I'll probably see and hear that little mascot on t-shirts, lunch boxes, posters, in-store video ads, commercials, awards shows, DVD promos, etc. until Disney "puts it back into the vault!"
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Wall-E...supposes that the human race of the future will become a flabby mass of peabrained idiots who are literally too fat to walk... not sure I've ever seen a major corporation spend so much money to issue an insult to its customers.
Ha ha, that appeals to my latent teen-aged sense of societal loathing, now I must see this movie! (I'm serious, I really wanna see it now.)
