Vurt's T2 Graphics Overhaul

vurt on 15/10/2012 at 14:42

your game looks a lot less saturated than mine :)

I recreated the ruby on that mission, made it slightly smaller and now it's env mapped too.

Inline Image:

http://piclair.com/data/uv0ei.jpg

ZylonBane on 15/10/2012 at 15:01

I'm not sure gems work that way. By which I mean, it looks like a jeweler cut and polished it, but in an almost random pattern. Which doesn't make any sense.

IMHO, a more effective approach would be to keep the overall original shape, but texture it to look like an actual rough-cut ruby.

(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/32/638pxcorundum215330.jpg/)

Inline Image:

http://imageshack.us/a/img32/9640/638pxcorundum215330.jpg

vurt on 15/10/2012 at 15:27

It's supposed to be an uncut one? I can easily change the texture if it's supposed to be a cut one. The original shape is not random in any way, looks like a cut to me. I guess i went with something in between since i couldnt really figure that out hehe

ZylonBane on 15/10/2012 at 15:42

Granted, the original "gem" model is a flat-textured, flat-colored Platonic solid, so there's plenty of room for interpretation.

But given their context in the game -- the Trickster, Pagans, nature, etc -- it seems fitting that the gems were naturally formed, pulled from the earth already in their octahedral shape, cleaned but otherwise untouched by the insulting grinding and polishing tools of the manfools.

Weasel on 15/10/2012 at 15:55

Vurt-

Is it ok to use the new models for Fan Missions, if we credit you? Are they all your own creations, or do we need to pass any credit along to anyone else?

Albert on 15/10/2012 at 16:15

Though there's nothing quite a lovely as a polished gem.

I'd say work to make it look good (with an env_map possibly), and otherwise it'd be easy to make it look unpolished and fresh from the earth with a simple texture swap.

vurt on 15/10/2012 at 16:28

You're probably right ZB.

Any good?

Inline Image:

http://piclair.com/data/59gqc.jpg

@Weasel absolutely, and yes its all my own. I'll probably release a resource at some point too, i've got thousands of trees, plants and grass models that i've done over the years, i should probably convert at least a few of them to the community.

voodoo47 on 15/10/2012 at 17:12

ok, ran through the trail of blood level - time for some more constructive criticism:

-the new rock model, being quite a bit larger than the original model, causes gameplay issues - completely hides some loot, and, as the phys model remains the same, player can clip through (parts of) it.
-more transparency issues on the plants (probably all of them could use that mtl fix you mentioned, as they clearly have issues when a transparent part should be displayed over another transparent part).
-in the maw, there is also a red water that could use an update.
-there is a really messy place (linking the (https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B6HbtMBk0pYzZ0l0b2FGZElVX3M) save and the screenshots) where the new trees clip through the hollowed out sequoia tree and the tree bark texture looks all wrong (from the outside, look for tree 915. when I made the model two times smaller, the clipping issues were fixed. if you can produce a small version of that tree, I'll be able to dml fix it).
-the snowy trees could use some new models as well (probably planned, but I'll mention it anyway).

ZylonBane on 15/10/2012 at 18:08

It would be great to get some realistic icycle models. The ones in Thief have always been pretty bad.

vurt on 15/10/2012 at 18:35

@ voodoo47

thanks! i'll take a look.

@ zb
yeah i could look into that later maybe.

new cliffs

(http://i.imgur.com/iNfrn.jpg)