BrokenArts on 17/4/2007 at 23:02
You know who else I feel sorry for, besides the obvious families and the victims themselves. I can't help but wonder about Cho Seung-Hui parents. The guilt they must feel, the agony, knowing what their son did. They have to live with this for the rest of their lives. I wonder if they will feel the "Where did I fail, what did I do wrong, why couldn't we see this coming." (Given some of this kids writings, were they blind to what was going on?) Could they of done anything at all, who knows. So many "what if's" Being a parent myself, I know I would, I can only imagine.
Scots Taffer on 18/4/2007 at 00:00
Quote Posted by Jonesy
There apparently may have been some sexual abuse issues that brought this about according to the article.
There's going to be half a dozen theories as to why this happened, it's what the media specialises in in the aftermaths of tramaus such as this one. You'll
maybe get the legitimate reason coming out in a week or so, if ever - otherwise one of the most popular theories will be cemented with completely circumstantial evidence and held as gospel.
ignatios on 18/4/2007 at 00:18
I don't mean to derail, but the Canadian woman killed, Jocelyne Couture-Nowak, was someone I knew. My father worked with and knew her husband Jerzy rather well; we used to go to their house for barbecues and other faculty gatherings.
I haven't seen her in years and we were never very close, so I'm not especially upset. It's just so weird to think of it.
And incredibly sad. :(
Ko0K on 18/4/2007 at 01:24
Quote Posted by BrokenArts
You know who else I feel sorry for, besides the obvious families and the victims themselves. I can't help but wonder about Cho Seung-Hui parents. The guilt they must feel, the agony, knowing what their son did. They have to live with this for the rest of their lives. I wonder if they will feel the "Where did I fail, what did I do wrong, why couldn't we see this coming." (Given some of this kids writings, were they blind to what was going on?) Could they of done anything at all, who knows. So many "what if's" Being a parent myself, I know I would, I can only imagine.
Apparently both his parents attempted suicide, although I didn't catch the timeline part of the news, so I'm not sure if this happened in the past or as a part of the current situation. The father died as the result of his attempt, while the mother, who survived hers, is currently nowhere to be seen. Hindsight seems to be revealing some warning signs that went unresponded to in the past. Counseling was suggested, but was refused by the kid. Personally, I believe he just needed friends to remind him why life is worth living.
Scots Taffer on 18/4/2007 at 01:28
Jesus, it's getting even more tragic if that were at all possible.
Also, as I said to ig, his post just makes you realise we live in a world that is so much more smaller and fragile than we can ever know.
paloalto on 18/4/2007 at 01:34
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Because it makes you sound like a pompous arse when you keep framing it in stupid proclamation-speak - that's why, taffer. That and guns have no place in a proper society.
Is preservation of democracy and personal freedom part of your proper society?How long do you think the U.S. would last if it completely disarmed?
It's a nice Utopian thought that would lead to slavery in a heart beat.
But I do agree that a proper society would have no need for guns.
Muzman on 18/4/2007 at 01:52
No word on an official video game explanation yet, that I can see. He was however said to be very shy and wrote violent stories for English class.
Hell. They'll be banning anything not Disney fodder from every school in the country for ten years. ('though how this guy slipped through post-Columbine will be the subject of much consternation. The Dime-store-psychs of the world won't be falling all over themselves to explain how I and probably millions of others haven't gone on a killing spree yet, but they're too damn busy consulting with government bureacrats)
Swiss Mercenary on 18/4/2007 at 02:18
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How long do you think the U.S. would last if it completely disarmed?
I can't speak for rednecks, but in quite a few places around the world, most of us don't walk around with artillery pieces strapped to us.
Oh, right, still more freedoms then you've got, here.
Dia on 18/4/2007 at 02:51
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How long do you think the U.S. would last if it completely disarmed?
Are you talking about the US as in our military being forced to disarm or US citizens not being allowed to own firearms? I rather doubt the disarming of either is likely to happen in our lifetime. The former for obvious reasons and the latter because the NRA lobbyists - well- that pretty much goes without saying. Sad to say, as much as a lot of US citizens would love to see the day when firearms become illegal to own for all but the military and police, it's just not gonna happen. Might turn out to be a tad more peaceful here if it did though. But silly me; I forgot about the black market thing. Nope; as long as some one is selling them, someone's gonna buy them.
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It's a nice Utopian thought that would lead to slavery in a heart beat.
Slavery of whom?