Video of what happens when you dont use a turn signal when going to the hospital... - by 37637598
heretic on 3/2/2008 at 21:12
Quote Posted by fett
..is there anything whatsoever about the woman's demeanor or behavior when she first exits the car that signifies hostility or aggression toward the cop?
Or before that even, say by refusing to pull over on the way to the hospital in the first place.
Also, her husband looks to have been in the cop's plain view through the driver side window. He quite likely did not appear any more injured sitting upright in his seat than he did swinging his cane with enough force to break it over the cop's head.
I doubt that you would be very surprised to know that almost everyone lies to the cops, almost all of the time. Sadly, cops are often not as keen as you seem to be when determining potential threats, which seems obvious considering the cop was blind-sided by a would-be wheelchair bound man who had only recently been "crushed".
Martek on 3/2/2008 at 22:07
Quote Posted by heretic1dg
Or before that even, say by refusing to pull over on the way to the hospital in the first place.
Sorry I already addressed that point. :rolleyes:
They were almost at the hospital. Hell, even if she *was* going to pull over, where she ended may have just been the safest close place available anyways; that's how close they were (at least, according to your, ahem, "unedted video").
But again, as close as they were to the hospital, it's basically common sense to proceed to there and then when you stop there you can explain to the hopefully-not-power-tripping officer the situation (unfortunately they were not lucky in this instance).
fett on 3/2/2008 at 22:34
Quote Posted by heretic1dg
Or before that even, say by refusing to pull over on the way to the hospital in the first place.
Also, her husband looks to have been in the cop's plain view through the driver side window. He quite likely did not appear any more injured sitting upright in his seat than he did swinging his cane with enough force to break it over the cop's head.
I doubt that you would be very surprised to know that almost everyone lies to the cops, almost all of the time. Sadly, cops are often not as keen as you seem to be when determining potential threats, which seems obvious considering the cop was blind-sided by a would-be wheelchair bound man who had only recently been "crushed".
I guess I can only hope that if I'm mortally wounded, the cop following my wife doesn't make a judgment call based on how I appear through the rear glass of my car.
So your conclusion is that because the guy wasn't
really injured in the end, and the cop's assumption was correct, it was perfectly legitimate for him (the cop) to behave the way he did.
Anyone here see Minority Report?
heretic on 3/2/2008 at 23:12
Quote Posted by fett
So your conclusion is that because the guy wasn't
really injured in the end, and the cop's assumption was correct, it was perfectly legitimate for him (the cop) to behave the way he did.
My conclusion is that the cop might very well have acted reasonably since he may have had no reason to believe that the man in question was injured enough to warrant the ladies disregard for the law, given the information he had at the time. Like I mentioned, everyone tries to get out of tickets. This scenario stands to reason given the way the situation eventually played out.
It's odd that you keep comparing this situation with a hypothetical one where someone is mortally wounded. Speaks volumes about the
actual case in point no?
fett on 3/2/2008 at 23:22
It's not odd. I do it because there's a different between the case in point and the principle at stake.
And I refuse to believe (or shudder to think) that the cop attempted to make an accurate diagnosis of the man's medical condition through the rear glass of the car, and then acted (or fail to act) based on that diagnosis.
heretic on 3/2/2008 at 23:52
Quote Posted by fett
It's not odd. I do it because there's a different between the case in point and the principle at stake.
And I refuse to believe (or shudder to think) that the cop attempted to make an accurate diagnosis of the man's medical condition through the rear glass of the car, and then acted (or fail to act) based on that diagnosis.
It doesn't have to be accurate, only rational. Also, not rear glass...driver side window which appears to have been rolled down. The view through the rear works as well though. The man is clearly animated inside, twisting in his seat and pointing his hands, leaning back and forth.
There is a differance, were it was an emergency situation where someone's life was in danger I'd be in total agreement with you. The fact is, there is nothing to indicate that this was one of those situations, however there
is quite an indication otherwise.
The_Raven on 4/2/2008 at 00:07
Slight derail:
Jesus, following some of those links at LiveLeak.com leads you to some crazy shit. (
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cb4_1176415265) This one has me completely dumbfounded. Gotta love how none of the other officers in the vicinity even raise the slightest objection to what is going on.
heretic on 4/2/2008 at 00:35
Quote Posted by The_Raven
Slight derail:
Jesus, following some of those links at LiveLeak.com leads you to some crazy shit. (
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cb4_1176415265) This one has me completely dumbfounded. Gotta love how none of the other officers in the vicinity even raise the slightest objection to what is going on.
The fact that he was allready cuffed and in a jail/cell in the very least makes that clip particularly worthy of criticism.
The Alchemist on 4/2/2008 at 01:36
Quote Posted by heretic1dg
It doesn't have to be accurate, only rational. Also, not rear glass...driver side window which appears to have been rolled down. The view through the rear works as well though. The man is clearly animated inside, twisting in his seat and pointing his hands, leaning back and forth.
Wow, that's extremely perceptive. Where'd you get your med degree? Shit, I've gone to the hospital for some serious shit and you better believe I was fidgetting and testy as fuck. LOL HE CAN STILL WALK WITH HIS CANE TOTALLY NOT IN NEED OF MEDICAL HELP. Dude, he has to walk with a fucking cane. Hint numero uno.
