RippedPhreak on 6/12/2024 at 02:40
So investigating your political opponent is illegal eh...? That's so weird since the Democrats have done little else since 2016 but investigate their political opponent for dozens of various made-up hoax crimes.
And even if the aid was "Congress-mandated," it's perfectly reasonable to tell the Ukrainian government that if we're going to send you hundreds of millions of dollars, you need to stop helping to money-launder a bunch of it back into Hunter's (and by extension Joe's) pockets through Burisma.
uncadonego on 6/12/2024 at 04:16
contortionism
Starker on 6/12/2024 at 07:34
To be clear, pressuring a foreign leader by holding up Congress-mandated aid is the illegal part. A prosecutor deciding to prosecute something, according to law and with all the legal protections afforded, is not illegal. That is what prosecutors do regularly. Likewise, the persecution of Hunter was political, but it was not illegal.
Also, hoax crimes? Lord Dampnut stole top secret documents and refused to give them back, then only gave back a portion of them and tried to hide the rest. He incited an insurrection that ended up with cops being assaulted by his followers and US elected representatives being chased by a mob, having to flee for their lives, all in order to disrupt a democratic process. He tried to pressure election officials to change the outcome of an election he very clearly lost. Do I need to go on? The evidence is right there, in plain sight. Now, what did Brandon do that isn't the fevered imaginations of conspiracy theorists?
Starker on 6/12/2024 at 08:01
Maybe I have to go back to the very basics -- Congress has the power of the purse. US presidents, no matter how powerful they have become are still yet not kings and have no right to override the Congress on these matters. Hell, that was all the fuss with the Iran-Contra -- Reagan wanted to fund terrorists to overthrow the Nicaraguan government, but Congress wasn't allowing him, so he decided to do it anyway, but on the sly.
Also, investigating your political opponents is not a good look even on a good day, but doing it sneakily and illegally is again what Watergate was all about -- undertaking illegal actions to find some sort of dirt on your opponents.
Is that what this is all about, then? Relitigating Watergate and Iran-Contra as revenge?
DuatDweller on 6/12/2024 at 12:06
Trumpgate?
