RippedPhreak on 7/11/2024 at 21:32
The prime movers for voting Trump were to drastically reduce immigration or even make it 0.0% for like 20 years, plus bringing back jobs from overseas and economic improvement in general.
mxleader on 7/11/2024 at 21:39
Quote Posted by RippedPhreak
The prime movers for voting Trump were to drastically reduce immigration or even make it 0.0% for like 20 years, plus bringing back jobs from overseas and economic improvement in general.
So basically the impossible...
RippedPhreak on 7/11/2024 at 21:44
If the people don't get what they want, they will keep moving farther and farther Right until they find someone who will give them what they want. Why not just give it to them now?
Arch Fenster on 7/11/2024 at 23:10
Repeating for clarification:
The reason Trump won was voter apathy. People who said things like "they're all the same" and "the lesser of two evils", etc., who simply did not vote.
Call it intellectual laziness. Call it a lack of the imagination required to foresee outcomes. Call it uninformed cynicism. Whatever you wish. But it's the folks who took no action that handed Trump the prize.
mxleader on 7/11/2024 at 23:12
Here's what I'm seeing on Tiktok: Trump won because:
1. People hate the Biden/Harris administration enough to vote for Trump
2. Everyone is racist.
3. White women are racist.
4. What were latino men thinking?
5. Everyone hates women, even women.
6. Not enough people want a woman for US president.
7. The low votes for Harris is because many were fake during the 2020 election but the problem is fixed now.
8. Everything is Biden's fault.
9. Harris had four years to fix things and didn't, so it's Biden's fault.
10. Women cancelling out their father's, sons, brother's, uncle's, cousins and grandpa's votes was the best campaign strategy.
11. Telling the opposition that they are stupid and garbage in the hopes that they would be persuaded to vote blue.
Did I miss anything?
Vae on 7/11/2024 at 23:14
Donald Trump's campaign manager Susie Wiles has been named Chief of Staff.
She is the first female Chief of Staff in history...
[video=youtube;mZk7fzlkKtI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZk7fzlkKtI[/video]
mxleader on 7/11/2024 at 23:15
Quote Posted by Arch Fenster
Repeating for clarification:
The reason Trump won was voter apathy. People who said things like "they're all the same" and "the lesser of two evils", etc., who simply did not vote.
Call it intellectual laziness. Call it a lack of the imagination required to foresee outcomes. Call it uninformed cynicism. Whatever you wish. But it's the folks who took no action that handed Trump the prize.
I've seen a few social media posts blaming those who voted Green, Libertarian, etc. are at fault. The problem with that is that if all those other parties voted for Harris it wouldn't have moved the needle.
Starker on 8/11/2024 at 00:33
People will always try to find someone to blame when something bad happens. But at the end of the day, the responsibility lies at nobody else's feet other than the voting-age people of the US. They saw the incredible displays of incompetence, the constant rampant corruption and the incessant chaos and scandals of the first 4 years first-hand and said either "yes, more of that!" or "I don't really care if it's more of that." Lord Dampnut may be a stain on the image of the US, but it's the people of the US who soiled themselves... twice.
Pyrian on 8/11/2024 at 01:52
Quote Posted by mxleader
What economic recovery?
The very
very successful one. Historically successful, even. Try to keep up. Brought unemployment below 5%, inflation below 3%, real inflation-adjusted wages rising
especially for lower income earners, record stock markets and GDP. If you go back and compare the last several economic recoveries, this was much better in every important way.
Yes, there was some inflation (still not "hyperinflation"), but 1. IMO
really not a big deal when inflation-adjusted wages are UP and 2. It was worldwide inflation and we were comparatively
low. The
real reason there's a big freakout about inflation even after it went back below 3% is that people with a lot of money
haaaate inflation (and Democrats) and they've purchased the ability to drive the discourse. For a typical worker, things cost 21% more than 4 years ago but they're getting 26% more pay, so whatever, why go out and vote? They've got work to do. But the guy with $100m in dollar-denominated assets suddenly finds that the buying power of that investment is now only ~$80m compared to four years ago is
pisssssssed off and more than willing to blow a few million to fool the gullible. They'd much rather have high unemployment than low returns.
