mxleader on 7/11/2024 at 13:56
It's interesting to me that women on the left are upset at white conservative women for not voting for Harris. Those white women are and always have been conservative and very few will abandon their political values for a gender vote. The most likely scenario for a woman to become US president is for both major party candidates be women. If that happens not only will there be a woman in the oval office but you will see the smaller party candidate's votes swell. I'm not saying this to be mean or anything but I think that's the reality of the way US voters think.
heywood on 7/11/2024 at 15:05
A lot of religious conservative women are anti-abortion voters who always vote Republican. I don't think there's any mystery to how they voted.
Harris actually did better among white women than Biden or Clinton. Trump did better than last time with younger women and especially Latinas. I think the Latina vote is easy enough to understand, but younger women are a bit of a mystery to me.
mxleader on 7/11/2024 at 15:43
Voter turn out in general seems a lot lower this time than in 2020, which is a bit strange. Did people not vote because they didn't like either choice or are the conspiracy theories about fake ballots true? At any rate, Trump will be more dangerous this time than the last because he's older and also doesn't have to think about getting reelected. If both the house and the senate become republican control conservatives can do just about anything. Will Republicans take the high road or the low road? Will Republicans use this golden opportunity to royally fuck over the country and piss nearly everyone off or will the use the time to repair the party's reputation? Probably fairly easy questions to answer, unfortunately.
Pyrian on 7/11/2024 at 17:09
Quote Posted by mxleader
Voter turn out in general seems a lot lower this time than in 2020, which is a bit strange.
Eh. Stuff was really
really a shit show in 2020. That motivated people to turn out. Democrats need strong turnout to win, but create prosperous stability, which depresses turnout. Republicans need weak turnout to win, but create chaos and disaster, which increases turnout. The cycle has been clear for a long time. In a nutshell, Harris lost because Biden's economic recovery was
too successful; Clinton and Obama presided over much slower recoveries.
mxleader on 7/11/2024 at 19:06
Quote Posted by Pyrian
Harris lost because Biden's economic recovery was
too successful
What economic recovery?
demagogue on 7/11/2024 at 20:27
The stats show an economic recovery. Wages and prices are famously sticky after any economic shock, and then add to that the spotlight bias (people remember or pay attention to what they're told to look at in clear detail than what they could see themselves with great effort in blurry detail), and so there's a lag and bias in people on the ground seeing it in their daily lives. It's an effect that always repeats itself after every economic shock it seems, it's just sad when it lines up with a campaign cycle like it did this round.
LordBooford on 7/11/2024 at 20:43
The high inflation thing was a worldwide thing. In the UK prices were crazy for a while. Even on everyday foods- just a can of soup slowly doubled in price. Statistically American inflation was among the lowest in the world. I've tried pointing that out to MAGAs online but they just don't or won't understand it. It's all "Everything was so darn expensive, it was Biden's fault"
Arch Fenster on 7/11/2024 at 21:11
Remember that each time America has encountered the Darkness, we came through it a better nation.
Arch Fenster on 7/11/2024 at 21:12
I think the primary reason that Trump won is apathy.
