US Election Thread 2024

baeuchlein on 6/11/2024 at 21:15

Quote Posted by RippedPhreak

Ok but in all seriousness there are a few factors behind this:

1) You should understand that the US press and media are all liars. Those of you in other countries like Canada, UK, Japan...everything you hear from them is a lie.

Since Fox News says Trump won the election, this means... Mrs. Harris won? Hey, great news!:cheeky:

I still want to see that wall on the mexican border that the Mexicans should pay for. I guess this day might never come.

Tocky on 6/11/2024 at 22:48

Quote Posted by RippedPhreak

Final summation: You can NOT make the voters poorer via your policies and expect them not to punish you for it. Ukraine, abortion, helping migrants, pointing and shrieking HITLER...whatever you try. None of it is going to matter if the voters see that their wallets shrank between 2019 and 2024. Democrat strategists should keep this top of mind at all times from now on.

The only Us news that lies are the right-wing ones to try to help Trump out. He was convicted and forced to pay a million for running a fake charity. He tried to rile up a redneck army to stop the vote count and to coerce governors to make up numbers for him. We all saw this.

As for hurting financially, how is more tax cuts for the rich going to help? That was the first thing he signed last time and I expect no less this time. The oil companies going up when they didn't have to is the main thing which caused all other prices to go up. They made record profits gouging the consumer and yet I see no blowback about that. THAT is what raised prices across the board. When shipping goes up so does everything else.

Also what in hell is Trump going to do to make prices go back to what they were? We live in a capitalist society. You can't demand they go down. All economists say that tariffs make prices go higher and yet Trump is supposed to be smarter than them? Trump? Have you heard him speak?

Pyrian on 6/11/2024 at 22:55

I know we wanted to not have a proliferation of threads. Are we going to close this now and make another Trump Dump or something?

Anyway, Trump is promising to begin his term by immediately starting up an operation to deport millions of illegal immigrants, the biggest such operation in history (of course, Trump almost always uses superlatives, for what that's worth).

Here's how that sort of thing has gone here in the past:
(https://www.history.com/news/great-depression-repatriation-drives-mexico-deportation) Great Depression
"Dunn estimates around 60 percent of these people were actually American citizens..."

(https://www.history.com/news/operation-wetback-eisenhower-1954-deportation) Operation Wetback
"...some of them American citizens..." "...anti-Mexican sentiment was pervasive, and harsh portrayals of Mexican immigrants as dirty, disease-bearing and irresponsible..." "...others died of sunstroke, disease and other causes while in custody."

Vae on 7/11/2024 at 04:39

For clarity, this is the final result of the presidential election...

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gbv6IKuWQA0msW_?format=jpg&name=small

Trump wins 312 electoral votes...which is a landslide victory.

Trump wins all 7 battleground states.

Trump wins the popular vote by over 4.6 million votes.

The Republicans win control of the Senate.

The Republicans win control of the House.

Mr.Duck on 7/11/2024 at 06:39

Quote Posted by baeuchlein

I still want to see that wall on the mexican border that the Mexicans should pay for. I guess this day might never come.

Mexican here. You're gonna be waiting for a long, long time. <3

lowenz on 7/11/2024 at 07:17

Quote Posted by Vae

For clarity, this is the final result of the presidential election...

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So where are the "big unstoppable powers against the people" ?

Arch Fenster on 7/11/2024 at 07:59

I am really proud of Kamala Harris. And very thankful.

Libs, you may wish to point out to any MAGA friends and family that there have been no accusations of election fraud, and no denial of the election loss, from Harris or anyone associated with her.

Also, today (is it still today?), during her concession speech, when she assured the public and the press that there would be a peaceful transfer of power, the audience of democrats applauded.

That's proof of sincerity and integrity if anyone needed it.

lowenz on 7/11/2024 at 08:02

"MAGA friends" are laughing at her and her voters.....they're not interested in "honesty". They function around a totally different paradigm: the "righteousness", not the "honesty".
For them "honesty" is for the weaks and you're intended to laugh at weaks because weaks are losers and that's a circular argument that create a positive feedback (I mean positive not as "good" but as "additive")

If you fail to understand their mindset (-> (https://www.instagram.com/the.art.of.purpose/p/CkyJVUCLK9Y/?img_index=1) ) you can never stop the shitshow.

Tomi on 7/11/2024 at 10:27

Ah well. I'm disappointed but not at all surprised. How the maga folks have remained faithful to their demigod is a bit scary, but then again the rise of the far-right can be seen all over the world, which is always worrying, as is the rise of any kind of extremism. It's only one day after the election, but you can already see the crazies starting to crawl out of their holes (even here on TTLG) and I'm really not looking forward to all the wild conspiracy theories that they come up with during the next four years.

What the world really doesn't need at the moment is more instability and unpredictability, but that's exactly what Trump has to offer. You only have to look at those people who have been the most eager to congratulate him so far, and you get a good idea where his politics lie and what we can expect from his presidency. I hope that at least something that he does leads to something positive, even if it's by accident, but right now I can't see too many positives. "BUT HE SAYS THAT HE'LL END THE WAR IN UKRAINE IN ONE DAY!!!" You know, he may even aim for that, but what really matters is how he's planning to do that.

I wish I could just ignore Trump and his corner of the world for the next four years, but sadly that's not how global politics work, and his cult has followers in my country as well.

lowenz on 7/11/2024 at 10:46

The only 3 things that can stop Russia are:

1) concede to Putin whatever he wants
2) frontal attack Russia
3) go on with the attrition war for the next 5/10 years and make Russia bankrupt

Of course Trump will choose 1) but being a child he can't grasp the fact that Russia economy can't revert to a "peace time economy" in a snap and so the MIC will "necessary" push for some other military actions (Transnistria? Moldavia? Georgia? Africa?) in the ideological framework of the "Ruski Mir".