DuatDweller on 4/11/2024 at 19:37
We will have to wait now and see what happens with the election results.
heywood on 4/11/2024 at 21:38
Of course...
Quote:
A lawyer for Elon Musk's political action committee told a judge in Philadelphia on Monday that the so-called winners of his $1 million-a-day voter sweepstakes in swing states haven't won by chance but instead were selected to be paid “spokespeople” for the group.
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https://www.post-gazette.com/news/election-2024/2024/11/04/elon-musk-giveaway-america-pac/stories/202411040070) https://www.post-gazette.com/news/election-2024/2024/11/04/elon-musk-giveaway-america-pac/stories/202411040070
Trump's dysfunctional ground game is a perfect reminder of how dysfunctional his administration was. Everything he gets into besides hotels and golf courses ends in a shambles.
Vae on 5/11/2024 at 03:20
Quote Posted by DuatDweller
We will have to wait now and see what happens with the election results.
What will happen, barring any shenanigans, is that Trump will win the election.
Keep in mind that we are still in
Cold Civil War conditions. As such, we are presented with these possibilities:
It is very likely in the event of a decisive Trump victory that lawfare and riots will ensue.
The Trump vilification propaganda from the Left will incite unrest and violence, which has the potential of turning into a
Civil Fracturing or even a
Hot Civil War (CW2).
During this time of lawfare and discontent, a third assassination attempt on Trump will likely happen. If Trump is assassinated, this will almost certainly plunge the U.S. into the first stage of CW2.
If Trump is blocked from becoming President due to corrupt lawfare, this will also likely provoke the first stage of CW2.
If the Left backs down after the inevitable tantrum, then further civil fracturing can be avoided.
If the election is close and drawn out, and Kamala magically wins despite a clear incongruity with exit polling and other objective measures, then the Right will definitely not accept this...
and the Right will not back down. Once again, this will lead to the first stage of CW2.
Of course, it won't end there...assuming we get past the initial transitory stage. The mass deportation of illegal aliens will again be hotly contested, and another possible trigger point for fracturing and war.
demagogue on 5/11/2024 at 06:36
That or he's going to lose, fail in his attempt to overturn a fair election, and then move to Moscow to avoid a sure prison sentence later in the month.
DuatDweller on 5/11/2024 at 10:26
I think Mc Murdo could be more weather friendly....
Just kidding.
:p
heywood on 5/11/2024 at 11:51
Hold on to your butts.
I was just looking at the swing state polls on 538. PA and NV are still a dead heat with no trend up or down. In GA and NC, Trump has been +1 for the last couple of weeks, but there was a small move toward Harris over the weekend pulling it even. In MI and WI, Harris is +1 and it looks like Trump's numbers there peaked a week or two ago. So we're looking at a statistical tie, but the trend going into election day is toward Harris. Slightly. It looks closer than 2020, where we saw swing state polls break towards Biden in the final week or so.
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https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/pennsylvania/) https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/pennsylvania/
If Harris wins it will be because of her organization getting out the vote. If Trump wins, it will be because of the enthusiasm gap.
Because it's expected to be insanely close, it will be contested no matter what the outcome is. But unlike last time, where Trump had a clown posse legal team, I expect this time he will have highly paid, highly effective litigators who have been scheming for the last 4 years. Democrats have been preparing too. I think we're going to see a lot of dirty tricks aimed at undermining confidence in the tally, and legal challenges everywhere. So we may not know the result in PA before the end of the year. And if Harris pulls off an upset in Arizona like Biden did, that's going to turn into a big shit show.
Aja on 5/11/2024 at 15:34
Quote Posted by Vae
What will happen, barring any shenanigans, is that Trump will win the election.
While I appreciate that this is the most sincere post you've ever made, what makes you think this? Almost every poll is showing a near dead heat.
Starker on 5/11/2024 at 15:52
Mass deportation of illegal aliens in the US would be the most idiotic self-own a country could make since Russia invaded Ukraine. Just the financial and economic costs alone would be staggering.
Jason Moyer on 5/11/2024 at 15:57
Quote Posted by heywood
But unlike last time, where Trump had a clown posse legal team, I expect this time he will have highly paid, highly effective litigators who have been scheming for the last 4 years
Because you know people who are good at what they do like working for someone with a long history of not paying anyone.
Jason Moyer on 5/11/2024 at 16:04
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