RippedPhreak on 23/10/2024 at 17:46
Shrieking "Trump is Hitler!" for the 357,128th time will surely work THIS time.
Pyrian on 23/10/2024 at 18:27
Quote Posted by RippedPhreak
Shrieking "Trump is Hitler!" for the 357,128th time will surely work THIS time.
Remind me, are you on the "Don't believe the patently obvious" train or "Yes please more Hitler" train or both?
Starker on 23/10/2024 at 19:00
You mean the guy who talks about how immigrants are poisoning the blood of the US and how the biggest threat to US is the enemy within AKA the democratic opposition and also wants a military solution to both of these perceived problems? The guy who wanted to illegally stop the democratic process when he lost an election? The guy who openly admires tyrants and aspires to be one himself? He may not be Hitler but he definitely is a fascist.
demagogue on 23/10/2024 at 19:11
The thing is that Hitler is the only model of a historical leader that Trump knows.
Hitler's speeches is the only book I've seen documented that he's ever even read.
I don't think you can really understand anything he does without that data point.
It seems silly to pussyfoot around it anymore.
It plays bad to low information voters.
But literally anything smacking of the actual situation on the ground plays bad with them.
Do we have to tolerate a North Korean-style "everything is peaches" delusion mongering because of it?
Edit: If it makes any difference, Hitler for him is 1920s Hitler, the version he's read up on and that he checks in his own speeches, which was more like people's idea of Mussolini today than the Hitler most people think of today, which is why he comes across more like Mussolini today. Well that and it's a mythic Hitler to begin with, e.g., one that commanded the loyalty of "his generals" (which the real Hitler definitely didn't), which was part of Mark Kelly's point that brought this whole thing up again this round. But since facts have no meaning to his core supporters, those are hardly hairs worth splitting.
Aja on 23/10/2024 at 19:11
He also mused about giving police one hour to freely brutalize criminals ("And I mean really rough").
RippedPhreak on 23/10/2024 at 19:20
Shrieking "Trump is Hitler!" for the 357,129th time will surely work THIS time.
Starker on 23/10/2024 at 20:17
Shrieking "It can't happen here!" for the 357,129th time will surely work to deflect THIS time.
Pyrian on 23/10/2024 at 20:51
It's worth noting that the reason why calling things fascist is cliche is because Republicans call Democrats "fascist" for things like forgiving student loans.
RippedPhreak on 23/10/2024 at 22:02
Things like "forgiving student loans" may not be fascism but they are unethical. It's a literal bribe: I'll give you $30,000 (or whatever) for your vote, and have the taxpayers shoulder your debt burden. Buying votes directly with taxpayer money.
Now if you want to forgive the loans and just tell the banks to get fucked, you're never getting paid back...then I'm all for it.
Jason Moyer on 24/10/2024 at 01:38
Forgiving student loans would cost around a trillion dollars. That's a fraction of what we spent on the Reagan/Dubya/Trump tax cuts on the privileged, PPP loans, and needless wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and unlike all of those examples it would actually have a positive benefit on society and the economy. I paid my loans off years ago, but I harbor no ill will towards anyone struggling with them. Affordable education should be a priority in this country, not ramming Christofascism and the glorification of nepotism babies down our throat all day.
