crunchy on 16/10/2007 at 05:47
The great toilet seat debate!
Let me start off by saying that when it comes to toilet seats, I always put the seat AND the lid down after I syphon the python (there's another euphemism).
Anway what I'd like to know is why the hell women think they have the right to DEMAND that we put the toilet seat back down? Why don't they put the toilet seat up when they have finished? It is a piece off equipment that two people must use at two different settings/positions and if the person before you used it a different setting to how you do, then you have to adjust it. Lets look at another example. Say a women and man living together both have toast for breakfast and the toaster they have is one of those that have an adjustable setting for how dark you like your toast. The man prefers his toast light whereas the women likes her toast medium. What do you think would happen if he DEMANDED that after she had made her toast to return the toaster to the light setting? I'm pretty sure it would become colder than a blizzard in Antarctica in that household.
So why do women think they have the right to waltz into the toilet anytime they like and plonk their fat asses down without worrying if the toilet seat is up or down? I had this argument with my sister many moons ago and about the only semi-reasonable argument she had was: "What about when I need to go in the middle of the night and I'm still sleepy. I don't have to worry about the toilet seat being up and sitting down on the cold porcelain". SO? I and I'm sure there are plenty of other males out there also need to go in the middle of the night. Why can't we just walk in, flop it out and start the flow without having to worry about if the seat is up or down? We can't! We have to check and if its good enough for us then its good enough for them too.
I remember on one occassion my sister and I both needed to go and she got in there first. When she finished she just walked out and did not lift the seat for me, knowing full well I needed to go as well. Yet if the situation was reversed and I had left and not put the seat down for her, all hell would have broken loose. I just don't understand how they think that 100% of the time they get to use the toilet without having to move the seat.
A few years back on the Australian version of Big Brother. On the very first day in the house one of the females laid down the law about the toilet seat to all the males. Now as I said I do put the seat down and if I had been in the house I would have walked up to her and said "Listen bitch, I always put the seat down but just because of you I will deliberately leave the seat up. In fact whenever I happen to be in the bathroom and notice that the seat is down, I will go in and lift it up. Just for you."
OK, rant finished, I just need to get that off my chest. Anyone else want the soapbox?
Vasquez on 16/10/2007 at 06:14
Quote Posted by crunchy
Anway what I'd like to know is why the hell women think they have the right to DEMAND that we put the toilet seat back down?
I guess it's a remainder of those days when women did all the household chores.
If you sit on an unseated toilet -> cold achy buttcheeks and that quick but unsettling wobbly feeling that you'll fall right in. But if you piss standing up, you'll be just as comfy whether the seat is up or down, especially knowing that it's the wife who will be wiping off the dribble (with a cloth or more icky, with her ass).
This win-win situation for the guy has lead to a common courtesy demand that the least he can do is mind the seat to be in the proper position.
Turtle on 16/10/2007 at 06:37
I live with 3 girls.
One fell in yesterday with the seat down.
I'm not going to be responsible for any wet asses.
charlestheoaf on 16/10/2007 at 06:56
I always put the seat and lid down, and I don't like it when anyone, male or female, leaves the lid up :p
It's not that big of a deal, but it just doesn't seem as clean. There have also been a few times which I have dropped things into an open toilet bowl, especially if there's a shelf above it or if it is next to the sink. If the lid is closed you won't have to worry about that.
Kolya on 16/10/2007 at 07:08
Listen young Padawan, once you start cleaning that toilet yourself, it will be up to you entirely whether you leave up the seat or not. But believe me, you will prefer to sit down... Now SIT!
jimjack on 16/10/2007 at 13:39
When I grew up I didn't have a lot of boundaries set, least of all to worry about the positioning of the toilet seat. But that has all changed. I too, live with females. One fell in recently..I was responsible. The way I see it:
What is the Big Deal? Is that hard for them to figure out the complicated mechanisms of a hinge? Is this a technical incapability of the female gender that incapacitates them when confronted by the toilet seat? They cry for equal treatment by men, but they cry when we begin asking them that they take the easy half of the responsibiltiy in matters to the toilet seat. We guys don't have a problem raising the seat to pee, and thats the hard part! We are working against gravity when lifing the seat. Lowering it requires nothing but a little nudge or if you dislike the noise, a gentle lowering. It is not an unreasonable request to ask that you have a mind, when using the bogs to check first to make sure you won't sink ass first into the bowl. Is there not some validity of the male request that females share the responsibility in the positioning of the toilet seat? So the next time she finds herself facing a toilet with the seat up, she should be asking herself "do I really want to be precieved as a liberated, independent, self-suffiecient person or do i wish to be precieived as incredibley helpess that I am incapable of dropping a toilet seat into place?" women need to fend for themselves in the bathroom.
The_Raven on 16/10/2007 at 14:55
It's just basic common sense to check the area in question before you heedlessly plop your ass anywhere. Funny how all sorts of shit in society isn't a two-way street.
I found this topic rather amusing since I was pondering the same question not too long ago when the proctor -female, I'm assuming- hung up a common bathroom curtesy reminder; lowering the seat was featured fairly predominantly.
Toxicfluff on 16/10/2007 at 15:19
I think it's acceptable to ask for it down. Women need it it flat for both excretions, and men for one of them. Down pleases more people more of the time.
That's not even putting the obvious benefits of not being faced with a gaping toilet maw hungry for your personals in regard. Like another poster, I've dropped a lot of not-shit shit into my loos.
addink on 16/10/2007 at 15:26
In proper decent behavior one is supposed to think of others first when leaving something to be used by others.
Since leaving the seat up only accommodates men and then only when they have to pee, the chance that a toilet with the seat up will accommodate the next user is less than when the seat is left down.
So the decent thing to do would be to leave the seat down.
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Why this 'decent behavior' has become a right, I dunno.
Shoshin on 16/10/2007 at 15:28
In any given relationship between men and women (be it siblings, significant others, parent/child, roommates, whatever) there are lots of issues that will arise where taking a stand one way or the other makes sense. The toilet ain't one of them.
Personally I put both lids down, and demand that my wife does as well. Otherwise the dog drinks from the toilet bowl.
