gunsmoke on 5/7/2009 at 20:41
+1 for the zing, deth.
DDL on 5/7/2009 at 21:05
Quote Posted by Vasquez
Anyways, good news. Next question will be, who forks out the money to buy it for the people who really need it (in western countries HIV isn't that big a killer anymore, in fact many patiens live a normal life span). I suspect they won't just hand it away free.
Like I said above, it's not a cure, it's a vaccine: you give it to people BEFORE they get HIV, and then when/if they do get HIV, they fight it off before it takes hold.
So given the cost/benefit ratio of "one jab and no infection ever" vs "a lifetime of costly drug treatment just to keep the infection at a managable level", it's gonna be vaccine all the way. HIV is treatable, sure, but it's shitty as all hell (take 30+ pills a day, most of which cause permanent nausea! Yay!).
So yeah: everyone would get it, ideally.
....though given the reaction to the cervical cancer vaccine (against human papilloma virus), that's not necessarily guaranteed. Sadly.
SubJeff on 5/7/2009 at 21:18
Quote Posted by Vasquez
And "removing you from gene pool would be beneficial" is totally fresh new and superfunny? ;)
It wasn't meant to be funny because he wasn't joking.
Yeah, a vaccine would be much cheaper than all the pills and the clinics and the blood tests. I'm wondering when they are going to sort one out for swine flu since it seems there are 1000s of new cases every day.
DDL on 5/7/2009 at 21:37
Presumably beyond a certain infection-level threshold a vaccine becomes a redundant concept....and a threshold which swine flu appears to be approaching faster than vaccine research is. Possibly.
Though honestly, it's not even like swine flu has done anything ordinary flu strains haven't, yet. You're medically affiliated, right SubJeff? Is there something I'm missing? Other than possibly causing excessive immune reactions and thus being slightly more dangerous to the young and healthy than ordinary flu, it's still basically just...flu, as far as I can tell.
Martin Karne on 6/7/2009 at 01:21
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
No guys, don't try to convince Martin. Seriously Martin, I've not see you posting much that is really objectionable or controversial on here but if you are of that opinion then perhaps you shouldn't try any treatments or vaccines that Gates money is involved in - the gene pool might benefit. Not being nasty here, just saying wat is troo.
Just for that swoosh on my joke, I'm gonna DOS your supasekure copy of Mikerowesoft OSes to death.
Vasquez on 6/7/2009 at 06:47
Quote Posted by dethtoll
Not necessarily. Just truthful. ;)
Har har. Still, Martin got a bit of an overreaction.
Quote Posted by DDL
Like I said above, it's not a cure, it's a vaccine: you give it to people BEFORE they get HIV, and then when/if they do get HIV, they fight it off before it takes hold.
Yeah, I know. And it is shitty to get ANY kind of lifelong disease, I just meant in this case the ones in the direst need of the vaccine are the Africans. But since they don't get the best medication available for AIDS, it's unlikely they'll get the vaccine either.
Kolya on 6/7/2009 at 07:09
* throws away a pack of condoms
Okaaaaaaaay.
