urusai_okama on 8/8/2002 at 16:54
The law exists to protect you. No matter how stupid, you have a duty to obey every technical detail. Remember, those who write the laws are both smarter than you and have accounted for your particular circumstances. The morality of copying a dead program is irrelevant--law is superior to morality. Since money determines the law, we can conclude that money is superior to morality. Therefore you should bribe...er, donate to the campaign fund of your congressman to let you copy Ultima Underworld.
Or, you can admit the system of "laws" has broken down and stop being a coward.
screwed on 8/8/2002 at 20:54
Oh please, if it was put on a PC Gamer disk, which is worth like nothing, I don't think the publisher is going to loose much sleep if you download it.
They won't receive any money for it, regardless. And money is the only consideration for these corporations. Technically, it is copyrighted proprerty, but for all intents and purposes, it's freeware.
Clark on 7/10/2002 at 19:30
Quote:
Originally posted by The Alchemist oh how i would LOVE to play Ultima Underworld...but alas...i cannot stand the movement. When i press forward and it goes leftish it makes me cry. And it deciding not to go back in a fight is extremely fustrating. No but worse is having it suddenly go LEFT when running near the edge of a chasm. AHHHHHH Why! WHY!!!! I wish they fixed that. That's all i'd like someone to fix. Then perhaps i could play it too. :) Is this something that comes with running on newer computer systems? It happens with me too when running under ME. But it never happened when I first completed the game on older computers.
/Clark
colonel_k on 10/10/2002 at 15:06
Quote:
Originally posted by urusai_okama The law exists to protect you. No matter how stupid, you have a duty to obey every technical detail. Remember, those who write the laws are both smarter than you and have accounted for your particular circumstances. The morality of copying a dead program is irrelevant--law is superior to morality. Since money determines the law, we can conclude that money is superior to morality. Therefore you should bribe...er, donate to the campaign fund of your congressman to let you copy Ultima Underworld.
Or, you can admit the system of "laws" has broken down and stop being a coward. I agree, although I don't live in the US (fortunately :cheeky:). To the best of my knowledge, UW/UW2 are old and
long out of print, so what's wrong with downloading them? I honestly don't believe there is anything immoral about this, unless the games are still on sale and I haven't seen them on sale for years. So what if the publisher (EA) doesn't want you to download UW? If they won't continue to sell them, go ahead and download them I say. If they're still on sale though, buy them legit, otherwise you're doing what is commonly known as stealing -- you're affecting people in a negative way. No excuse in this case.
Anyway, enough of my ranting, to download full unhacked versions of each:
(
www.abandonkeep.com)
...has both UW & UW2, the manuals and some codes. Happy gaming!
NotOnDuty on 17/10/2002 at 03:21
I felt a need to inform a person above(too lazy to see who or quote them) that you don't need virtual pc or any special programs to run UW or UW2 in NT/2k/XP. You can get them to run by hex editing the .exe and changing a line (I don't remember what it is or what you change it to but I can get the info if anyone needs it)
edit: I read that wrong but still...it's easier to hex edit the .exe yourself rather than download an edited one off someone's site
Solarian on 23/10/2002 at 02:07
I've been trying to run ultima underworld 1 - played it a long time ago and decided to try it once more while waiting for Arx. I followed the instructions in Sir Cabirus' readme, but when running uw.exe I still get an error:
Out of EMS Memory. Error code C001
Anyone have any suggestions?
Charon on 23/10/2002 at 05:30
Assuming you're running UW under one of the many versions of Windoze...
Right-click on the .exe, and go to properties. Click on the Memory tab, and change the EMS pull-down from Auto to the maximum. For some reason, Auto doesn't allow a DOS program to do dynamic allocation. :p Anyways, you may want to change all the other pull-downs on that page to their respective maxima as well; you can't possibly have too little memory to make that troublesome.
And then bask in the dated glory of Ultima Underworld...
Solarian on 23/10/2002 at 06:09
I'm sorry, I forgot to mention - but yeah, I'm running XP. Latest result: all memory options on that page are maxed out except for the Total Conventional Memory which resets back to Auto whenever I choose the maximum which is 640. Anything less it seems to accept. Regardless, I still get the same error complaining about a lack of EMS memory...
I'm thinking of maybe trying to run it with a boot disk. Would this be a viable solution for this problem?
edit: No luck with the boot disk, same memory complaint. There must be something I can do to fix this... Anyone have any suggestions?
PraetorJudis on 24/10/2002 at 12:05
This won't help you run the game under Windows XP, but it may come in handy once you've got it running.
(
ftp://ftp.pjsattic.com/pub/uw1manual.zip)
It seems my ISP is having some issues with FTP services at the moment, but I've contacted them and it should be back up soon. I'll let you know as soon as it's available again.
Edit: It works now!
silicon on 28/10/2002 at 13:13
I've exactly the same problem as Solarian...I've followed all the patch instructions, tried all the memory options....
Anyone here has a solution ?
Thank you very much in advance !
