faetal on 8/4/2022 at 14:57
I'd say that the existence of humans predicts the existence of other intelligent life in a large enough universe.
What seems improbable is whether the frequency of intelligent species allows for any 2 to ever be close enough to know of the other's existence.
And it is just very striking that with the near-ubiquity of portable, high-def recording equipment, accounts and evidence have not seen a concomitant uptick in frequency and fidelity.
Cipheron on 8/4/2022 at 16:06
Quote Posted by faetal
What seems improbable is whether the frequency of intelligent species allows for any 2 to ever be close enough to know of the other's existence.
Distance in time as well as space. Space is vast enough but then you consider that if two things don't coincide in both time and space, they don't meet, and that makes the possible chances of encounter smaller still.
An alien probe could have passed through our solar system at almost any time before 100 years ago and not picked up any EMF signals from the planet.
Say there was a billion year old galactic species, and they survey systems regularly. How often would they send probes to a system they already surveyed? If it was every million years then they would have sent 1000 probes through our system. The chance of one having occurred in the last 100 years would be 1/10000. So they could well know there's life here, maybe they collected some samples once. But they'd have no way of predicting that a space-faring civilization would suddenly emerge right now. And our planet could be one of countless non-notable similar planets, with basic life on them.
Also in the above scenario, we'd expect that the aliens would send another regular probe this way on average in a half million years or so. Sure, we're also sending signals out, but I'm going to guess our signals are gonna be pretty weak and hard to tell from background noise at the distance of light years.
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The improbability of an ancient space-faring race *just happening* to visit us in the last few thousand years is probably part of the appeal of the "ancient astronaut" theory that posits that the aliens uplifted humanity - it gets rid of the coincidence by saying that the two things are related.
Stefan_Key on 11/4/2022 at 09:54
Well, I do hope they will never find us. See what happened to native americans when new comers got to their lands with improved technologies...
They could treat us, earthlings, like cattle (food) or slaves...
Azaran on 11/4/2022 at 14:21
I did see one myself back in 2000 or so. I was on the bus with a high school friend of mine one afternoon, heading down this avenue in Montreal, and at one point he points out the window and asks me “What’s that?”. I look, and far over the vacant field on the eastern side of the street is a flat looking, dark brown rectangle (like a giant piece of rusty iron sheet), slowly floating forward, about 40-50 meters off the ground, though unfortunately too far away to make out any details. My first thought was it must have been one of those banners that Cessna planes sometimes drag along, but there were none anywhere. This was before camera phones, but the closest looking one I found is this:
Inline Image:
https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/80/750x445/1088243.jpgThere was nothing on the news about it, so it was probably something mundane, but to this day I still can't explain it
hopper on 13/4/2022 at 08:37
I hate to break it to you, but UFOs don't exist. That's just a portal to another dimension.
Thirith on 13/4/2022 at 09:17
You're silly. The proportions (1:4:9 - “How obvious, now, was that mathematical ratio of its sides, the quadratic sequence 1:4:9! And how naive to have imagined that the series ended there, in only three dimensions!”) and shape already make it clear that it's the monolith from 2001: A Space Odyssey.
Tocky on 7/5/2022 at 06:14
Huh. I missed this. I've never known what to make of UFO's. Never seen a sky doorway. Me and Kev were laying on the hood of his car one night and noticed a light like any high jet or satellite moving across the sky but it was doing a crenelated pattern. What could move like that we wondered. And so fast for so high. Ninety degree corners? A helicopter? Not that high. About that time it glowed bright orange and shot off into the stratosphere. A trail of light diminishing at impossible speed. So can I rule out that we aren't a farmed out species with absentee caretakers? No. Can I rule out that we are being watched because we are batshit crazy and violent? Also no.
mxleader on 9/5/2022 at 11:16
Quote Posted by Azaran
I did see one myself back in 2000 or so. I was on the bus with a high school friend of mine one afternoon, heading down this avenue in Montreal, and at one point he points out the window and asks me “What’s that?”. I look, and far over the vacant field on the eastern side of the street is a flat looking, dark brown rectangle (like a giant piece of rusty iron sheet), slowly floating forward, about 40-50 meters off the ground, though unfortunately too far away to make out any details. My first thought was it must have been one of those banners that Cessna planes sometimes drag along, but there were none anywhere. This was before camera phones, but the closest looking one I found is this:
Inline Image:
https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/80/750x445/1088243.jpgThere was nothing on the news about it, so it was probably something mundane, but to this day I still can't explain it
Better focus would reveal that you are looking at an advertising banner probably trailing behind a small airplane that is out of view.
Azaran on 12/5/2022 at 21:54
Quote Posted by mxleader
Better focus would reveal that you are looking at an advertising banner probably trailing behind a small airplane that is out of view.
Yeah that was my only theory. I couldn't see a plane but maybe it was far away or something. Still looked extremely weird
