june gloom on 18/4/2010 at 04:03
SPOILERS you HANDSNIFFER
PeeperStorm on 18/4/2010 at 04:43
There. All better.
DaBeast on 18/4/2010 at 05:20
Brimstone
Vengeance Unlimited
Space Above and Beyond
Deadwood
witherflower on 18/4/2010 at 08:57
Quote Posted by Queue
As for Twin Peaks, after that horrible second season it didn't deserve a third. When Lynch "gave up" the reins, it lost all that was good, that wonderful surreal feeling, and became bizarre just for the sake of being bizarre. But, at least we have a near perfect first season and some incredible music to remember it by. If you haven't done so already, find and give the soundtrack a listen. Amazing.
Although the second season spiraled off into all kinds of weird directions it still had a handful of good moments. And that final episode was worth watching the whole thing imo. I agree, the soundtrack is amazing. I like each and every track, but Sycamore Trees stands as a favourite... There's something very special about it... the feeling I get.
And the theme from Mulholland Drive has sort of the same feel. David and Angelo complement each other in a perfect way.
DarkForge on 18/4/2010 at 09:13
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I should admit that I never watched much of it; I just saw bits and pieces and maybe a couple full episodes, but it always seemed like the same thing over and over, which is why it didn't interest me. But perhaps that's because I never really watched it.
Well yeah, I'll readily give you that one. PR had more than its fair share of standalone "filler" episodes over the years, especially in the earlier shows. Take the original Mighty Morphin' for example: the first season alone had 60 episodes, most of which you could watch in any order you wanted and it wouldn't really make a difference. Hell you can even watch most seasons in any order because each became their own separate entity with (occasional team-ups aside) no connection between them.
I think the show did get better with making use of gradual ongoing plots though, especially in more recent seasons like SPD, Operation Overdrive or the aforementioned RPM. Oh there's still been many "filler" eps, sure, but I do believe more effort was placed in the overall story now than it was back in the early to mid 90s.
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Also, it just looked dumb because of the over-emphasized fighting stances and weird-sounding dubbing of the fighting, but ever since I found out that the fighting was comprised of dubbed Japanese clips, it made more sense.
:cheeky: Yeah too true, and actually several similar shows were also adapted from Japanese shows: VR Troopers, Beetleborgs, Superhuman Samurai Syber Squad, Samurai Pizza Cats, the more recent Kamen Rider Dragon Knight... the list goes on. Some of the flaws in PR and others can be attributed to the Japanese franchise they adapt. Obviously there's limitations on ways they can use the available footage - and I'm no expert on Japanese culture, but from my experience with their kids shows, they seem to be able to get away with a lot more than an American or British show would. All that awkward "wackiness" we see... it's just more commonplace over there.
Those types of shows have always been big business in Japan though. Hey you think Power Rangers went on for too long? Sentai (the franchise its adapted from) has been going every year since 1975 and shows no signs of stopping yet!
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And on an entirely separate discussion: I totally agree with everyone who said Police Squad. I personally wasn't aware of it until a long time after the Naked Gun films, but I picked up the DVD a while back and absolutely loved it! Definitely deserved to last longer than it did.
june gloom on 18/4/2010 at 09:46
Finding out that MMPR used Japanese footage for their fight scenes blew my mind because it had never occurred to me that that was the reason why the film quality changed.
Matthew on 18/4/2010 at 17:45
So many here that I agree with. Also throwing out Good vs Evil and The Cape (yes it was formulaic, I still enjoyed it).
As for Studio 60: I've read that the reason for cancellation was simply that between it and 30 Rock, Studio 60's ratings were higher but 30 Rock's costs were much less, so it was the more economical show to make.
Enchantermon on 18/4/2010 at 19:28
Quote Posted by DarkForge
Take the original Mighty Morphin' for example: the first season alone had 60 episodes, most of which you could watch in any order you wanted and it wouldn't really make a difference.
I don't really mind filler episodes or Monster-of-the-Week stuff as long as there's some variety and spice to them. The entire run of Buzz Lightyear was like that, but the characters, acting and script were good enough that it didn't matter.
Quote Posted by DarkForge
Yeah too true, and actually several similar shows were also adapted from Japanese shows: VR Troopers, Beetleborgs, Superhuman Samurai Syber Squad, Samurai Pizza Cats, the more recent Kamen Rider Dragon Knight... the list goes on.
Beetleborgs, too? I remember watching a little of that. There was another show I thought of while writing this called (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystic_Knights) The Mystic Knights of Tir Na Nóg which also seemed like it could have Japanese roots, but turns out it didn't.
Quote Posted by DarkForge
Obviously there's limitations on ways they can use the available footage - and I'm no expert on Japanese culture, but from my experience with their kids shows, they seem to be able to get away with a lot more than an American or British show would. All that awkward "wackiness" we see... it's just more commonplace over there.
Very true. It's just a culture thing.
Quote Posted by DarkForge
Those types of shows have always been big business in Japan though. Hey you think Power Rangers went on for too long? Sentai (the franchise its adapted from) has been going every year since 1975 and shows no signs of stopping yet!
I know, right? I had no idea until I did some digging about it yesterday and that blew my mind! Over 30 years of it!
Pardoner on 18/4/2010 at 20:34
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Let's not forget The Wire Season 5 that was 3 episodes short.
I think you're forgetting about seven episodes there.
d0om on 18/4/2010 at 20:41
Bugs! An amazing programme. Although it started to get a bit rubbish in the last season, this was mostly down to re-casting Ed as a complete moron with no acting skills. It was cut down before its time, by the re-casting :(
AND It ends on a cliff-hanger which will never be resolved as they never made another series ;(
